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SHRIKE CLUB # 1

Old 12-27-2005, 11:43 PM
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Nose heavy airplanes have really bad elevator response. I had a friend with an OS 32 on a Sig Wonder and it was dull until he got the CG back where it should be. Then it was wild.

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Old 12-28-2005, 07:39 AM
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well the Shrike is DONE!!!! finito. as soon as i get pics ill post them.
Old 12-28-2005, 08:00 AM
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Nose heavy airplanes have really bad elevator response.
And it's even worse if they're also heavy as a brick.
Old 12-28-2005, 10:36 AM
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WHATS THE STANDARD WEIGH FOR A SIZE 10 SHRIKE WITH EVERYTHING IN IT.
Old 12-28-2005, 10:44 AM
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Not sure if there is a "standard". The final weight would depend on the engine, radio equipment, balance lead, and construction techniques. Early in the thread I suggested that people "weigh in". I remember seeing a few people post wieghts. Mine weighs 2 pounds 4 ounces without fuel. I've seen a couple posts from RC-FIEND saying his was 2 pounds 12 ounces, but that was before he switched from the .15 to the .28 and added a couple C cell batteries as ballast.
Old 12-28-2005, 10:58 AM
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OH OK SO MINE SHOULD BE LIGHTER SINCE IM GOING ELECTRICAL HUH! ALSO THE REAR WHINGS DOES IT MAKE A BIG DIFFRENCE IF THEY ARE 15 DEGREES OR STRAIGHT? ANYONE HAS PUT LANDING GEARS ON A SIZE 10? PICS PICS PICS also wheres the center of gravity on the size 10 Shrike
Old 12-28-2005, 11:20 AM
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Before I covered mine I pinned the fins straight and at an angle. Looks much better angled. Several people have added landing gear. I've yet to read positive comments about including gear from any of them. They've pretty much concluded that the plane flies better without gear. Will yours be lighter? I guess it depends on how heavy your battery pack is. It should be nice to not have to deal with adjusting the engine or cleaning the slime, but I think I would miss the sound of the engine unwinding at the bottom of those dives. Mine actually stays very clean, the pipe directs all the exhaust away from the plane.
Old 12-28-2005, 11:43 AM
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i know about the sound however a couple of the guys here @ the club i belong to www.rcrams.com they have the size 10 Shrikes and with the brushless motor makes a nice winding soung too im hopping to get mine mastered by this summer. im still kind of new at this.....[]
Old 12-28-2005, 11:52 AM
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Maybe we should have a Carolinas Shrike fly-in. A couple guys in my club are thinking of building them after seeing mine fly. I think one of the speed demons is a bit jealous since it appears my Shrike is faster than his Patriot. We've yet to have them both at the field on the same day, so it's just perception right now. It could be that the Shrike just seems faster since it's smaller.

Since you're new to this, choose a larger diameter, but smaller pitch prop. It'll give you more thrust and less speed. As you get comfortable, you can reduce the diameter and increase the pitch to make it faster.
Old 12-28-2005, 01:26 PM
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Hey piper you are only 79 miles from me check out the website i posted earlier there are some of the planes as well as pics of the airfield we have 70+ acers of open land that we own a nice landing strip and of course a clean port-a-patty....[:'(] get your guys together ill let you know when the next Fly-in is going to be we have everything from gigant scale to electrical to heilos and all and this invite is to everyone also we are haveing a BIG swapmeet next month in NC ill let you know when it is.

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Old 12-28-2005, 02:18 PM
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ORIGINAL: piper_chuck

Before I covered mine I pinned the fins straight and at an angle. Looks much better angled. Several people have added landing gear. I've yet to read positive comments about including gear from any of them. They've pretty much concluded that the plane flies better without gear. Will yours be lighter? I guess it depends on how heavy your battery pack is. It should be nice to not have to deal with adjusting the engine or cleaning the slime, but I think I would miss the sound of the engine unwinding at the bottom of those dives. Mine actually stays very clean, the pipe directs all the exhaust away from the plane.
Chuck,
The first Shrike that I built I modified it for landing gear. I wouldn't recommend it. I had a 9x5 prop on an OS 20 and I had almost no clearance between the prop and the ground when I landed. I had a prop strike on almost every landing. Also the weight of the landing gear really made the plane sluggish. On my second Shrike I left the landing gear off and I think that it flew much better without them.

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Old 12-28-2005, 02:46 PM
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Thanks for the info Ken. I'm pretty sure yours was one of the experiences I was citing. It's actually a pity the Shrike doesn't adapt better to landing gear, I think it would make it even more fun. I happen to have a set of .20 size retracts and I keep thinking that putting them in the Shrike could be interesting, but there's no way around the negative effect of the extra weight.
Old 12-28-2005, 02:51 PM
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WHAT DO YOU GUYS USE AS FAR AS EXTRA CUSHION FOR THE LANDING BELLY SINCE NO LANDING GEAR IS BEING USED.
Old 12-28-2005, 03:10 PM
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I used the plastic strip that came with it. However, that peeled off in flight. After this I just put on another strip of sticky foam and then covered it with some clear packing tape. I fly off grass, and it's holding up quite well.
Old 12-28-2005, 03:19 PM
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Cool ill try that !! what about one wheel on the belly of the plane like a glider?
Old 12-29-2005, 07:52 AM
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Alright the Shrike is DONE!!!! tested the thrust on the brushless 400 and it pulls nice and strong and the sound is cool sounds like a turbo car..... im hopping to get pics soon thank you for all the help i hope i graduate to a Shrike 40 in the future......
Old 12-29-2005, 08:38 AM
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Cool ill try that !! what about one wheel on the belly of the plane like a glider?
If you're flying (more importantly, landing) on grass, I'd suggest keeping it simple and light.
Old 12-29-2005, 08:40 AM
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Alright the Shrike is DONE!!!! tested the thrust on the brushless 400 and it pulls nice and strong and the sound is cool sounds like a turbo car..... im hopping to get pics soon thank you for all the help i hope i graduate to a Shrike 40 in the future......
Time to put it on the scale and post the weight. If you don't have one, take it to the local grocery store, perhaps early in the morning when they are fairly empty, and see if they'll weigh it for you.
Old 12-29-2005, 11:02 AM
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cool ill do that today,get the weigh and try to get pics , hopefully ill be able to post them tomorow the Plane it looks good for being my 1st kit and covering job........
Old 12-29-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default RE: SHRIKE CLUB # 1

What size prop are you using with that brushless 400? which 400 is it?

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Old 12-29-2005, 01:45 PM
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PARK 400 Brushless motor with a 3 cell 15C KOKAM battery
Old 12-29-2005, 02:36 PM
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What prop size?

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Old 12-29-2005, 03:32 PM
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im using a 5/5 size prop..
Old 12-29-2005, 04:39 PM
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Thanks, I might have to try it.

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Old 12-29-2005, 05:22 PM
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is nice i like it

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