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I am between 2 planes sig four-star and Giles G-202 46

Old 10-04-2006, 03:36 AM
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I am between 2 planes the Sig Four-Star 60 arf and the Giles G-202 46. This will be my second plane. I have been flying an alpha 60 trainer and I want to move on to bigger and better things. I plan to get everthing new for this plane from the engine to the radio. I also want to have a plane that would be good in acreobatics. any info on these planes would help
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Old 10-04-2006, 06:21 AM
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Default RE: I am between 2 planes sig four-star and Giles G-202 46

Four Star 60 is a good 2nd plane with a .61 two stroke or a .91 four stroke. It's capable of doing any aerobatics that you will want to try short of 3D. It flies very well and has no bad habits at all. I'd make the Giles a 3rd plane maybe.They are not quite as forgiving as the 4 Star.
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Old 10-04-2006, 06:52 AM
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Yea, what he said. It's hard to beat a 4*40 or 60 for a second airplane. After you master it then move up to the Giles. If you pick the engine you want in the Giles and put it in your 4* you can move it to save money, but there is a good chance that you might want to keep both.
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Old 10-04-2006, 09:37 PM
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Go with the 4-star. It will be a lot more forgiving than the Giles while still being a lot of fun. This is what you want in a second plane.
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:03 PM
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Yep, 4-star, with a saito 100, should keep ya happy for a long time.
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:29 PM
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Is it possible to convert the 4 star to flaperons?
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:43 PM
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it is but not many people will suggest you do it. the 4* series are planes that love to float. i chop the throttle to 1/4 and make a field length pass then chop to idle, bank and start my final. all this bleeding air speed, i still take most of the runway to get it down. i am thinking of converting mine to flaperons just to play around with it a bit. i'm thinking the flaps will push the nose down, this will create a faster landing but should shorten my final.
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Old 10-11-2006, 08:17 AM
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Default RE: I am between 2 planes sig four-star and Giles G-202 46

As the owner of a Giles with a 91 four stroke I can tell you that it isn't a third, fourth or even a fifth plane unless you have exceptional talent. It is touchy and unforgiving with a tendency to snap if you give it too much elevator. Don't mess with it until you are sure of your abilities.

I wouldn't rate the Four-Star and the Giles 46 as being in the same class at all so I don't think it is fair to choose between them. One is a gentle flier with some abilities the other is an uncompromising purebred that was never the leader in its' class.
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Old 01-10-2007, 08:33 PM
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another to think about is the lanier stinger series many sizes to pick from
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:45 PM
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Th Giles 202 is not as forgiving as the 4 star. Giles 202 would be more like a 3rd plane.
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Old 01-11-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default RE: I am between 2 planes sig four-star and Giles G-202 46

G'day Mate,
Below is a pic of my Giles 202, it has a 160 not a 46, & I would agree with all the above & that it is a 3rd or 4th plane, go for the 4*.
The larger Giles 202's are very smooth, to fly, BUT, it takes a lot of experience to trim & fly one, comfortably.
The smaller ones, fly well too, but usually have a higher wing loading, & don't land as easily as a lightly loaded 4*.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:26 PM
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The 4* should be your next plane. It has no bad habits and will allow you to develope the next level of skills after your trainer. You will really like this plane. I have a Giles 202 with a Magnum 91 and love to fly it. But it's around my 20th plane. It's not as stable as the 4*, will not do 3d even though it was built light, tends to snap if it goes into a tight loop too fast, and when landing it gives no stall warning and will drop like a rock suddenly if proper speed is not maintained. Still lots of fun but has to be flown. Consider it for your 3rd or 4th plane.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:28 PM
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A good friend of mine just built a four * 120 with a Brison 2.4. It fly’s awesome. After seeing that one fly, I built one that is gone to be gas also. Big or small the four star is just a grate plane.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:40 PM
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Some people get into the 4 Star and never feel much of a need to move on to much else. They like them that much. I really enjoy my Venture 60, it just flies nice....
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Old 01-12-2007, 08:02 PM
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I have flown the 4*60,lanier stinger 60arf,gp uglystick 60arf.The stinger and uglystick make for a more fun flying sport plane and they are better built than the 4*.Have someone set up the throws for mild aerobics and you enjoy will these planes.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:20 AM
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What about a wild stick by CG. I had one and I think it is the best of all the sticks. With high and low rates it will fly just as calm as a trainer and just as crazy as you want to get. This was my 2nd plane and it worked out greate for me. The only thing with a four star is if you progress quickly you may get very bored very quickly. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 01-13-2007, 06:44 AM
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Default RE: I am between 2 planes sig four-star and Giles G-202 46

My second was a Goldberg Tiger 60 and I still have it after several years of flying it. A very nice ARF (comes in kit form too if interested).

Oddly enough, my third was the Sig Four Star 40 and I loved that thing. It was much faster than the Tiger so I had to be particularly careful with it at first. But, it flew just great and did everything I expected it to do.

It was my first tail dragger so I learned to fly and land with that setup. The tail dragger setup really emphasized CG and having a slight bit of nose heavy which really improved my landings. As it was, it was very slightly tail heavy and landings were very bouncy. I shifted the CG slightly and it started to come in very nice and smooth.

I also have the CG Wildstick, has an OS 46 on board. I like it as a fun-fly airplane, but it was not as good as a second plane as the Tiger or the Four Star.

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