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Old 01-15-2008, 05:36 PM
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Default ultra sport .40 plus or not

I've been wanting an ultra sport for a long time and I finally decided that I'll get one. I'm trying decide between the older ultra sport and the ultra sport plus. I know the plus is more 3d capable, but my main concern is a smoot fast plane. I know I can put retracts on either model and whichever one I get I will put retracts on it. Just looking for opinions.

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Austin
Old 01-15-2008, 06:36 PM
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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

Acarter,
The Plus is a *******ized version of a great plane. Last christmas I was given a copy of the plus kit (before GP re-released the US 40 original) and I started building it. The plane is nowhere near what the the US 40 is. They changed too much of the structure of the plane and I feel that it would have been a lot weaker than the US 40 would have been. In fact, so much so that I didn't even finish the kit. I cleared it off the building board and scrapped the entire project. Now that the US 40 is out I won't ever think about the US 40+. Trust me and do yourself a favor and get a copy of the US 40 original kit.

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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

Dont even consider getting the plus. While a fair plane in its
own right there is no way it compares to a real Ultra Sport.

Join the ranks of us that know for a fact what the greatest
sport plane of all time is. Get the real deal.

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Old 01-15-2008, 06:48 PM
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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

Ok, then that's what it'll be. I'll order it tonigh. I will put hobbico retracts on it. And I plan to cover it in yellow and red starburst patter.

Thanks again,
Austin
Old 01-16-2008, 10:30 AM
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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

i have the plus and while i like the plane and its fun to fly its not an ultra sport if you have wanted an ultrasport its better to get an original.
Old 01-16-2008, 10:57 AM
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I think the Ultra Sport + would be better liked if they had named it something else. Its a great plane but doesnt compare to the original.
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ORIGINAL: bigugly

I think the Ultra Sport + would be better liked if they had named it something else. Its a great plane but doesnt compare to the original.
Very well put.

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Couldn't have said it better myself!
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I see this over and over again, and nobody actually explains why the Plus is so bad and what the old US can do that the Plus can't. It's always "trust me" or "don't even consider..." and "get the real thing". That doesn't explain anything. Enough people say those things that there is probably something to it, but what is it? Jim
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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

The original Ultra Sport is optimized for pattern style maneuvers. It is smooth, fast, and very precise. It has neutral stability and penetrates wind very well. It has a broad speed range and is easy to take off and land. (With the exception of the long wing version of the Ultra Sport 1000, which floats forever.)

The Ultra Sport Plus is optimized for Imac and 3D style maneuvers. It is a nice flying plane with neutral stability and it is also easy to take off and land. But compared to the original, it is not as smooth, fast or precise. It does not penetrate as well and it does not have as broad a speed range.

I'm sure there are some flyers who would prefer the Plus, I just haven't met one.

Jim

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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

well shoot Vern.... guess I'll have to toss this one in the trash according to everyone

I might give it a chance
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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

I have the US Plus and I Love it, excelent plane.
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Old 01-19-2008, 11:56 AM
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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

Very nice. Nobody ever said the Plus wasn't a good airplane. Enjoy it, and maybe somewhere down the road you can build a real Ultra Sport to compare.

Jim
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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

Perhaps the US Plus is not as smoot or precise as the original US40, but it is capable of some advanced maneuvers that the original US40 is not. I think they both are excelent planes, just different. BTW I've already ordered an original US40, just to have the best of both worlds
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Thanks Jim, that says a lot more. Specs show the Plus has a little more wing, a little less length, and a lot more control surface area. It's also lighter.

Very pretty US+, Frank.

Jim
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Hi acarter,

I had an US 40 years ago and when I piled it in, the look on my face upon returning home led my wife into a fatal mistake. She said, you'll just have to get another airplane! I loved that US 40.

So I got another plane, but not an US. Then over time another plane and another, until....

The US series was discontinued. By that time I had built and flown enough planes that I realized the US was the best plane I'd ever had, none other could compare. Boy was I mad at myself for not getting another one. Years later, RCKen took the bull by the horns and started lobbying Great Planes to bring the kit back and THEY DID!

I bought a 60 size this time around, may get the 40 also and stash it away for a future build.

I haven't flown the US 40+, but from what I've read, it's a good airplane.

Which ever one you choose, you can't go wrong so enjoy!!!

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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

Thanks, Jim.
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Default RE: ultra sport .40 plus or not

I got the ultra sport a couple weeks ago and right now I have the wing built with the retracts installed and I just started the fuselage. I'll post some pics tonight.

Austin

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