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Old 01-26-2013, 12:25 AM
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Howdy all, firstly happy Australia Day for us Aussies..... the east coast of QLD is dealing with the left overs of a tropical cyclone and we are expecing 500-700mm of rain over the next few days so no flying this long weekend.

Thought Iwould post this as some of you might gets a heads up or not be aware of this information. It's regarding the tail grip bearings on the align 450 and most clones that have directly copied the Align design. Basically there is a design flaw that may arise and it's not only a safety issue it will cause your heli to fall form the sky.

Now with me being all safety conscious and all I've delt with the issue by replacing (on order at the momnet) the tail grips and bearings on both my 450 pro's.

The issue -> if you checkout the image below which I found somewhere you'll see that the tail grip has two bearings with a brass spacer and the screw that holds the grip on. So basically the only thing that's holding the grip on is the outer case of the bearing. If this bearing fails and seperates then your grip is going to be ejected and that's one little sucker you don't want to get hit with. You'll see the inner sleeve of the bearing and the screw are still attached and the outer bearing and grip are gonskey.

The solution to this is quite obvious and that's to have a thrust bearing setup just like you have with the main blade grips. Tarot have has this available in the tail for a while now and is what is going on mine when they arrive next week.

Funny enough Align have just announced their thrust bearing upgraded tail.

So for those that have the old design, then replacing your tail grip bearings on a regular basis is mandatory. Another good tip also is to never stand directly behind your heli when you spool it up on the ground...always have the tail off at an angle so if something like the tail grip does seperate it's not going kill you.

Here are the pics of a failed bearing, the Tarot thrust tail and the new Align thrust tail.








Yeah Ive seen that photo. Not nice at all. The way you throw your heli around I would definately get some new ones on.
You stay safe up there. Havent watched much news lately but know its bad up your way.
Had a great Australia Day today. Went on a ride with my club and a few friends. Nice ride and great company. Very warm day now back home, a swim, a few drinks and time to watch the cricket.



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That photo looks quite nasty. Are those metal filings the remains of the bearing??

I never knew you ride a motorcycle Ingleburn

Spend the whole morning on the helicopters today. Fixed the slop in the feathering shaft region and it tracks absolutely perfectly.

Also rebuilt my Beast helicopter and replaced the HK401b Gyro with a Dectrum GY48V. I think they are both the same gyro but the HK401b is the new edition and its crap.

Also changed the tail servo from a HXT900 to a HK15158A digital servo. Seems to be working nice so far.

In the afternoon the wind came and there were lots of gusts that were quite fast. I tried to fly in between the gusts but I had to pay lots of attention to the helicopter as it would pitch up and down and move around heaps. Was great fun and there were no crashes!

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HIya kidz!

Almost done with me build.

..and I thought helicopters were a tight space to work???

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Hi Guy's,

Just checking back in after taking a little break from the hobby. A little vid to share:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAf5SjE-8Bw[/youtube]

I see I have a little catching up to do

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Hi Guy's,

Just checking back in after taking a little break from the hobby. A little vid to share:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAf5SjE-8Bw[/youtube]

I see I have a little catching up to do [img][/img]

Best to all

Simon [img][/img]
Hiya Simon!

Thanx for checking in and please let Bob know that his pal which of whom he's never met, gives his best!

Bob's awesome!

Lovely flying atmosphere BTW!

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@ Kozzy. Glad you got got the helis sorted. A HXT900 as a tail servo. Think anything would be better than that. If the wind where you are was anything like it was here your a game man for trying to fly. It was almost knocking me off my bike and it weighs 350Kg

@ Brian. The Gemini is looking good. Looks like the maiden isnt far off.

@ Simon. As I commented on YT Ive seen Bob in a few of your videos and I hope he is on the mend. BTW how old is Polly?

@ All. Well the time has almost come to make a decision on whether to bite the bullet and get a MCPX BL or cough up $70 on a new board for the old one.
First reports say that the BL has issues with the tail wagging unless you are doing crazy 3D with it. Might pay to keep an eye on the forums before I make up my mind.
I really should spend more time with the Nano. Not really liking it but maybe it will grow on me.
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Towards the end of the day the gusts were way to big @ around 6PM

However it was raining all of today and last night so no flying!
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Hiya ingleburn!

I'd "sit" on just about ANY of Horizon Hobbies newest until they sort their issues. In the mean time have you seen the[link=http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29823__HK_500TT_Flybarless_3D_Torque_Tube_Electr ic_Helicopter_Kit_w_blades_AUS_Warehouse_.html] HK500???[/link]

You could be ALL up for about the same price as one of the BL units!!

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Hiya ingleburn!

I'd "sit" on just about ANY of Horizon Hobbies newest until they sort their issues. In the mean time have you seen the[link=http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29823__HK_500TT_Flybarless_3D_Torque_Tube_Electr ic_Helicopter_Kit_w_blades_AUS_Warehouse_.html] HK500???[/link]

You could be ALL up for about the same price as one of the BL units!!

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Hope you Sydney boys are bracing for some wild weather. We've just come out the otherside of it ok, but the flooding will still be another day or so away. Stay safe.
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Hope you Sydney boys are bracing for some wild weather. We've just come out the otherside of it ok, but the flooding will still be another day or so away. Stay safe.
Yeah its pouring here now but the worst is expected later. Hope you are ok up there. Looks like your field might be a lake again?
Got a couple of friends up your way and there flights have been cancelled. Might be better they stay there anyway rather than to fly home into this.

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Just saw this on the news. Some people need shooting. Its hard enough for emergency workers as it is without idiots trying to make more work for them.

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Hiya ingleburn!

I'd "sit" on just about ANY of Horizon Hobbies newest until they sort their issues. In the mean time have you seen the[link=http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29823__HK_500TT_Flybarless_3D_Torque_Tube_Electr ic_Helicopter_Kit_w_blades_AUS_Warehouse_.html] HK500???[/link]

You could be ALL up for about the same price as one of the BL units!!

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Yeah I am just sitting hear watching what happens. More reports coming in that say the wag isnt that bad.
Im happy with the 2 450 pros at the moment so a 500 isnt in the picture for now.
Just need something small to practise with and the Nano isnt working out and the MCPX looses it if you arent careful with the collective.

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Hi all, spent a fair amount of time on sim on Saturday, had my fair share of crashes with it but I am getting the hang of it there. Even did some wild 3D flying that some of you may consider a run of the mill flight. Then took some heli's to the RC club and did come back with everything not needing any repairs. Left the 550 at home but did flya 35mhz Belt CP2 I had only flown once before.

Watched a TREX500 hitting the dirt and for the first time saw 2 realHK450's, having only seen it on the forum posts. One with flybar the other without.Flew very smoothly until the pilot decided to get down fast and flew the flybarred one into the ground brakingthe skids off.Surprisingly he lifted it off again and landed it without skids on the helipad.

We eventually had some rain last night so hopefully we will not be testing the 40C temperatures today.

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Yah the rain has been pouring down all day today.

That didn't stop me from having a small test hover of the #1 helicopter in the garage today!

Also I will be back at school from tomorrow onwards
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Can you believe this...... back to work today after a massive weather event all long weekend....and I've woken to clear blue sky, sunshine and not a breath of wind. That's just cruel....


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Thats just cruel and unusual punishment!!!!!!
Those weathermen!!! I think they do it on purpose!
They punish us here in the states as well, the weather here has been great while i am at the old slave farm,
Get a weekend rain, snow , wind or honey do's will we ever get a break!
I NEED A VACATION.
Or it is just Ga in the winter.
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Can you believe this...... back to work today after a massive weather event all long weekend....and I've woken to clear blue sky, sunshine and not a breath of wind. That's just cruel....


Yes it is cruel. Guess your field would have been to flooded to get a flight in before work anyway.
Storm passed us without any dramas. Its sad seeing all the people up there being affected again so soon after the last floods.

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Glad your ugly Wx has passed there Aussies!!

I maidened the boat today and it performed exactly how I thought it would.

In essence it is a 10 kt boat. It sailed wonderfully but as the wind increased to 15 knots and when I turned laterally to the wind and waves it simply rolled over.

I walked over, poured out the 4 oz of water and took her home to wifeys blow dryer!

This boat will be used on more calm winds i.e. morning and evening cruises.

I give it a 4 out of 5 stars!

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Ummm the Aussies get a little Wx and the thread dies??[:@]


Sissys, surrounded by SISSY'S!!


I've been getting into boats a bunch (DUH?) and I bought the below off of Craigslist and it came with a vintage, in perfect condition OS MAX .61 airplane motor that I intend to "Fleabay" unless one of the brothers on the forum wants it for a "deal"?

The boat is a Dumas BIG Swamp Buggy but is in reality an air boat. A BIG UN!

I'm converting it to electric with a .60 size HK outrunner and an 80 amp esc!

My Align 500 batteries will power the beast to high speeds!

The hull of the boat however does NOT look like the picture below and I'm gonna need wood working 101 to make it purdy!

All the best!

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Interesting purchase mate!

That's a nice engine too. OS engines are highly regarded afaik

wx not great here either. Now the snows gone it's galesso the heli fleet remains grounded.

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Interesting purchase mate!

That's a nice engine too. OS engines are highly regarded afaik [img][/img]

wx not great here either. Now the snows gone it's gales so the heli fleet remains grounded.

Simon [img][/img]

Hiya Simon!

A cool boat it is!

Actually I found these that make me drool but I hazzard to guess what they run!

I have never used Nitro with the exception of small engines back in the day and they were obnoxious then and I suspect obnoxious now!

I actually have just about everything but the fuel to run the thing but for 80bux USD our good friends at HK will eliminate all that muss and fuss!

A .60 size direct analogy and the plush 80amp will do nicely I'm sure!

Not I just need to learn wood working! DOH!

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Ummm the Aussies get a little Wx and the thread dies??[:@]


Sissys, surrounded by SISSY'S!!


I've been getting into boats a bunch (DUH?) and I bought the below off of Craigslist and it came with a vintage, in perfect condition OS MAX .61 airplane motor that I intend to "Fleabay" unless one of the brothers on the forum wants it for a "deal"?

The boat is a Dumas BIG Swamp Buggy but is in reality an air boat. A BIG UN!

I'm converting it to electric with a .60 size HK outrunner and an 80 amp esc!

My Align 500 batteries will power the beast to high speeds!

The hull of the boat however does NOT look like the picture below and I'm gonna need wood working 101 to make it purdy!

All the best!

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Talk about a sissy. Leave it nitro and let it scream. Dont supose the guy that built your fence can adapt to something smaller and fix the hull.

Nice weather has returned here but bought the wind with it. Hopefully get out with the 450 tomorrow before work.

Both small helis are waiting for parts. The Nano a new board hopefully under warranty and the MCPX a new MH swash as Im sick of breaking the plastic ones.

So far resisted a BL MCPX but for how much longer I dont know.

Been keeping an eye on your sail boat forum. Boy they eat a lot of popcorn. Got to laugh at the helis they are looking into. To bad they dont seem to like taking your advice. Oh well one day they will take the blinkers off.

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Ummm the Aussies get a little Wx and the thread dies??[:@]


Sissys, surrounded by SISSY'S!!


I've been getting into boats a bunch (DUH?) and I bought the below off of Craigslist and it came with a vintage, in perfect condition OS MAX .61 airplane motor that I intend to ''Fleabay'' unless one of the brothers on the forum wants it for a ''deal''?

The boat is a Dumas BIG Swamp Buggy but is in reality an air boat. A BIG UN!

I'm converting it to electric with a .60 size HK outrunner and an 80 amp esc!

My Align 500 batteries will power the beast to high speeds!

The hull of the boat however does NOT look like the picture below and I'm gonna need wood working 101 to make it purdy!

All the best!

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Talk about a sissy. Leave it nitro and let it scream.[img][/img] Dont supose the guy that built your fence can adapt to something smaller and fix the hull.

Nice weather has returned here but bought the wind with it. Hopefully get out with the 450 tomorrow before work.

Both small helis are waiting for parts. The Nano a new board hopefully under warranty and the MCPX a new MH swash as Im sick of breaking the plastic ones.

So far resisted a BL MCPX but for how much longer I dont know.

Been keeping an eye on your sail boat forum. Boy they eat a lot of popcorn.[img][/img] Got to laugh at the helis they are looking into. To bad they dont seem to like taking your advice. Oh well one day they will take the blinkers off.


You got that right! Yah, I kinda laughed about your snobby noise ordinances down under but alas, the lady that gives me access to her beach would NOT want to hear that loud B T C H hauling around her pond!!!

In lieu of I got THIS and [link=http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=30930]THIS![/link] (HK site is down)

No muss, no fuss!

The actual muss and fuss is [link=http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?20766-How-to-paint-a-boat]HERE[/link] as I have to re-do the hull!

As for the other forum, the character "Boomer" is really nice and PM'd me some very helpful info! Shame others aren't as pleasant but know this. These are predominantly a bunch of old codgers! Yah, the are rich (many of them) too! In the back ground of one guys piccy at his house is a freakin' ROCK STAR BUS RV! Yet they work HARD to be cheap as hell (kind of folks after my own heart now that I think about it!)!

If you ain't careful yer gonna have a huge fleet-o-little helicopters!!

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You got that right! Yah, I kinda laughed about your snobby noise ordinances down under but alas, the lady that gives me access to her beach would NOT want to hear that loud B T C H hauling around her pond!!!

In lieu of I got THIS and [link=http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=30930]THIS![/link] (HK site is down)

No muss, no fuss!

The actual muss and fuss is [link=http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?20766-How-to-paint-a-boat]HERE[/link] as I have to re-do the hull!

As for the other forum, the character "Boomer" is really nice and PM'd me some very helpful info! Shame others aren't as pleasant but know this. These are predominantly a bunch of old codgers! Yah, the are rich (many of them) too! In the back ground of one guys piccy at his house is a freakin' ROCK STAR BUS RV! Yet they work HARD to be cheap as hell (kind of folks after my own heart now that I think about it!)!

If you ain't careful yer gonna have a huge fleet-o-little helicopters!!

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I hear you regards the noise. Years ago I had a nitro car when I was in the Army. I got permission to use the parade ground but only on weekends.

As the barracks were right next to it you can guess how popular I was running that thing around at 7 in the morning. Lets just say after a few floggings I stopped using it till after lunch time.

Looking forward to seeing it tearing up the pond.

Im being careful not to jump into another small heli but if Rob, Jonesy or Phil gets one and starts spruiking there worth then Im afraid Im gone.

Wonder if the HK site is down for Chinese new year? Might be a pain to get stuff this time of year.

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