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Old 06-21-2013, 05:35 PM
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Time for a new thread as the previous one has been playing up for a month or so. This is Part 4 continued on from here ->http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11198904/tm.htm
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Time for a new thread as the previous one has been playing up for a month or so. This is Part 4 continued on from here ->http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_11198904/tm.htm
Yeah its been getting bad for me for the last week or so. Thanks for sorting it out again.

Just noticed a few new things. The new items page on HK shows some Yep ESC's. www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__37947__Hobbyking_YEP_40A_2_6S_SBEC_Brushless_Spe ed_Controller.html
To bad I dont need another one or I would try it as well.

Also Blade have released this.www.bladehelis.com/Products/Default.aspx

Not going near it but a good price and would be good for beginners or people that only have a small place to fly.

Yeah the squabble going on at the Mobius thread is funny. I tell one truth and all hell breaks loose but the guy over there is trying to defend another camera and hardly a peep from Tom.
I can just imagine the uproar when the camera is finally released.

Some really bad weather heading this way so not much chance of a flight this weekend.
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Yeah its been getting bad for me for the last week or so. Thanks for sorting it out again.
Just noticed a few new things. The new items page on HK shows some Yep ESC's. www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__37947__Hobbyking_YEP_40A_2_6S_SBEC_Brushless_Spe ed_Controller.html
To bad I dont need another one or I would try it as well.
Also Blade have released this.www.bladehelis.com/Products/Default.aspx
Not going near it but a good price and would be good for beginners or people that only have a small place to fly.
Yeah the squabble going on at the Mobius thread is funny. I tell one truth and all hell breaks loose but the guy over there is trying to defend another camera and hardly a peep from Tom.
I can just imagine the uproar when the camera is finally released.
Some really bad weather heading this way so not much chance of a flight this weekend.
Interesting they have done a 40a when they have the 45. With 20 or so flights on my 500 with the yep 80amp it seems really good so far. It runs nice and cool (just warm) after a flight. I had to change the soft start to the middle setting as the super soft is soooooooo sloooooow.


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Awww...

Daggannit, Jonesy... I wish you'd made the jump when you were talking about it; now all my big lumpy posts are lost at the end of the last thread.

*Pouts*

Also... I made it through your portal to the new thread okay, but why do my nipples hurt all of a sudden?


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Awww...

Daggannit, Jonesy... I wish you'd made the jump when you were talking about it; now all my big lumpy posts are lost at the end of the last thread.

*Pouts*

Also... I made it through your portal to the new thread okay, but why do my nipples hurt all of a sudden?


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Awww...

Daggannit, Jonesy... I wish you'd made the jump when you were talking about it; now all my big lumpy posts are lost at the end of the last thread.

*Pouts*

Also... I made it through your portal to the new thread okay, but why do my nipples hurt all of a sudden?


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Probably should have GLaDOS look at that...
We havent forgotten your posts.
In fact I was just thinking there was a gyro missing on your list. www.r-hobbies.com/index.php
Had it on one of my 450's but could never get it to work properly. It was the idiot on the end of it rather than the controller but I still went back to what I know, the ZYX.
Think thats the first time in this hobby that I let anything beat me.

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Dang...I wish my nipples hurt!   sigh...nothing has been done to make them hurt....oh, them were the days.....

Thanks Jonesy
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You people are KILLIN' me!!!

My God y'all are funny!

I wonder if we shook Simon. [8D]

One can only HOPE!

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Miracle Mart sends my "coupons" all the time and I find great humor b/c it's REALLY a miracle if they actually HAVE anything I need.

It's like they have a "psych" filter.

I look for something I like and find it and it's forkin' OUT OF STOCK!

I mean ONLY the things I need.[:@]



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Awww...

Daggannit, Jonesy... I wish you'd made the jump when you were talking about it; now all my big lumpy posts are lost at the end of the last thread.

*Pouts*

Also... I made it through your portal to the new thread okay, but why do my nipples hurt all of a sudden? [img][/img]


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Cranky Franky has re-opened the #16 thread -> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=15104
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Miracle Mart sends my "coupons" all the time and I find great humor b/c it's REALLY a miracle if they actually HAVE anything I need.
It's like they have a "psych" filter.
I look for something I like and find it and it's forkin' OUT OF STOCK!
I mean ONLY the things I need.[:@]
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Miracle mart is great for me becuase of their shipping. I think they are becoming a lot more popular hence the out of stock. I used to be able to score whatever I needed, but now like you.... EVERYTHING I want is out of stock.

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Cranky Franky has re-opened the #16 thread -> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=15104
Yeah I heard it was because some maniac started a new thread trying to steal his thunder. And that anyone subscribing to it would be banned for life.
Ill just go back to reading it to keep up with FW changes and the laughs I get when someone posts a question and gets shot down by one of his kiss a s s cronies.

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Yes indeed, that was quite a laugh. Don't let that become your life :P

However his amazing "self-help" first 5 posts couldn't answer why my cam can record for a bit, then has 3 red beeps then turns off!

I believe its the battery thats gone.
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Yes indeed, that was quite a laugh. Don't let that become your life :P
However his amazing "self-help" first 5 posts couldn't answer why my cam can record for a bit, then has 3 red beeps then turns off!
I believe its the battery thats gone.
Those little lipo bateries don't last long. Get a couple of spares from here ->http://www.ebay.com/itm/Internal-LIP...item4ab245adb8



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Yes indeed, that was quite a laugh. Don't let that become your life :P

However his amazing "self-help" first 5 posts couldn't answer why my cam can record for a bit, then has 3 red beeps then turns off!

I believe its the battery thats gone.
Go over and ask. Just dont mention theamazing "self-help" first 5 posts couldn't answer part or you might be executed on the spot.
Sounds like a crook battery although it wouldnt hurt to do a format on the card.

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Turns out I only had a few kilobytes of memory left.

Deleted previous videos from it and it should be all good.

Putting the helis aside for a while and got round to fixing my quad. Mainly re fitting the shaft in the motor bell, balancing some props, balancing the motors and fixing the frame.

I am also hoping to make some landing gear for it.

Also I found another way to attach the props to the DT750 motors that I was using. Instead if using a combination of props and locknuts, even some threadlock, some ziptie the prop directly to the motor bell. Sounds weird, but I hope it will actually secure my props!

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Yes indeed, that was quite a laugh. Don't let that become your life :P
However his amazing "self-help" first 5 posts couldn't answer why my cam can record for a bit, then has 3 red beeps then turns off!
I believe its the battery thats gone.
Go over and ask. Just dont mention theamazing "self-help" first 5 posts couldn't answer part or you might be executed on the spot.
Sounds like a crook battery although it wouldnt hurt to do a format on the card.
There is a procedure for formatting the card in the camera. This sounds like it might be a card issue. I had problems with mine untill it used the in camera formatting. Of course you'll find how to format the card in the camera in the forst 5 posts on the cranky franky thread.
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Turns out I only had a few kilobytes of memory left.
Deleted previous videos from it and it should be all good.
Putting the helis aside for a while and got round to fixing my quad. Mainly re fitting the shaft in the motor bell, balancing some props, balancing the motors and fixing the frame.
I am also hoping to make some landing gear for it.
Also I found another way to attach the props to the DT750 motors that I was using. Instead if using a combination of props and locknuts, even some threadlock, some ziptie the prop directly to the motor bell. Sounds weird, but I hope it will actually secure my props!
I've had that happen..... always right when your at the field. Formatiing the card is good to know when your at the field and you've run out of space

Try a set of 500 landing skids for your quad. I see they are popular.


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Awww...

Daggannit, Jonesy... I wish you'd made the jump when you were talking about it; now all my big lumpy posts are lost at the end of the last thread.

*Pouts*

Also... I made it through your portal to the new thread okay, but why do my nipples hurt all of a sudden?


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Probably should have GLaDOS look at that...
We havent forgotten your posts.
In fact I was just thinking there was a gyro missing on your list. www.r-hobbies.com/index.php
Had it on one of my 450's but could never get it to work properly. It was the idiot on the end of it rather than the controller but I still went back to what I know, the ZYX.
Think thats the first time in this hobby that I let anything beat me.


*Shamelessly uses this as an excuse to drag his last monster post through the portal*




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State of the Art right now in FBL Controls

Hey guys; as you know, I've been researching FBL a lot lately, much of it at the urging of you guys. I've got a flying club buddy, Mason, who has some pretty 3D good piloting chops and has been messing about in helis; this guy has been flying a HK-250 with tail gyro unconfigured (and not plugged into the RX!) and now an HK-450V2 with Tarot DFC head and Detrum GY-48V tail gyro (Thankfully, configured and plugged into the RX at my urging). He really is a heck of a pilot, which is probably why he can fly these things "Full Manual Mode".

Here's some video of him hovering it last night:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmv-h0epfDU

So I promised him I'd consolidate what I've learned and send him an eMail with that and some links. I was hoping I could get you guys to look it over and tell me if I've gotten anything blatantly wrong, or missed something or some gear that's important.


Mason -

I've been researching FBL for a while now; my choice, based on price and the forums, would be either the Bigaole BGL007-007 or the Robird G31 if I can afford it, matched with 4 of Turnigy's TGY-396V or TGY-306G servos and a decent 5-10A SBEC to power it all.




The big names in FBL right now are Mikado, BeastX, Skookum, HeliCommand and of course Align.


http://www.readyheli.com/MIK4357-Mini-V-Bar-V-52-Flybarless-Stabilization-System-p-37053.html


http://www.helidirect.com/microbeast...sb-p-22947.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/skookum-ro...er-p-26481.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/bavariandemon-3sx-p-30875.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/align-3gx-...01-p-23880.hdx


Performance-wise, the Mikado V-Bar and HeliCommand Bavarian Demon are considered the high-end, and prices to match.


The Align 3GX is considered to be stable and adjustable, but a pain in the tuchus to set up right, and the products from Mikado, HeliCommand and arguably even BeastX have surpassed the Align technology. The last year has been one of rocket-paced development in FBL; there's no room for "Old trued and true" when there's a new, better model every month. And I mean that - there really IS a new, BETTER model every few weeks; development is moving that fast.

The popular "affordable" FBL units are Tarot's ZYX-S 3GX competitor and the Robird G31 in the $100 range, and the Mikado Mini-V-Bar and the BeastX at around $200; all will use Spektrum satellite receivers as a direct plug-in, so no messing about with oodles of servo patch cables and a regular RX.

The BeastX is considered to be the best "First" FBL, with simple, easy to configure programming right from the panel, no PC required, plus being able to fine-tune for more performance as your needs grow. The V-Bar is not as easy to program, but has a lot more performance-oriented "fine-tuning" variables available. The Robird is considered to have the best GUI for programming on the PC; HobbyKing AND Tarot both sell it, so it's pretty popular.

http://www.robirdusa.com/G31-Gyro

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ss_System.html

http://tarot-rc-heli.com/Robird-G31-with-Govenor

As you might guess, the V-Bar and BeastX are VERY popular and have spawned a number of clones; HK sells pretty much all of the sub-$100 FBL units and clones, even Tarot's ZYX-S Align 3GX clone:


http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...m_Adapter.html

Mini V-Bar clone:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ol_System.html



BeastX clone: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ol_System.html

http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php...licopters.html

http://www.r-hobbies.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=802#.UcK2l5yjiuM <~~~~~HobbyMate HB800 is right there


All the above BeastX clones are rebranded Bigaole BGL007-007 units. Popular consensus is that these are a VERY good clone of the BeastX, but are susceptible to issues with power, so recommended to use a separate SWITCHING BEC of 5-10A capacity, especially if using digital servos. Truth is, that is actually a good recommendation for ANY FBL system, even the big name brands; most ESCs just don't provide enough current to be reliable with the heavy demand of robotic controls, which all FBL really are.


If you have the money and want name-brand peace-of-mind, Spektrum has listened to popular demand and released an integrated RX with BeastX FBL:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...em-SPMAR7200BX


And I just added this cuz I though you might like it like I do:

http://www.nitroplanes.com/projet-drone-2500mm-kit.html


Let me know what y'all think;


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Brian - That HobbyMate 800 is one of my picks; it is a rebranded BigAole BeastX clone. Let me know if you still have it and want to make a deal; I'm sure I must have SOMETHING you'll want.


Kozzy - I know; I've seen people zip-tie the motors to the frame too. I don't think it's a good idea, speaking as someone who uses zip-ties on a daily basis for what they're intended for:cable management. Zip-ties degrade under UV light; the locks get brittle with age and break because of exposure, even to fluorescent light. Remember, the "spring" part of a zip-tie is just a bit of plastic 0.020" thick; they are not intended for mission-critical attachment. Also, remember that the lock is also a biggish chunk of plastic which affects the balance of your motor; precise location of that mass is necessary to not throw your motors out of balance.

I know they're so convenient, the temptation is there to use them for EVERYTHING. That's not such a good idea sometimes...


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Kozzy - I know; I've seen people zip-tie the motors to the frame too. I don't think it's a good idea, speaking as someone who uses zip-ties on a daily basis for what they're intended for:cable management. Zip-ties degrade under UV light; the locks get brittle with age and break because of exposure, even to fluorescent light. Remember, the "spring" part of a zip-tie is just a bit of plastic 0.020" thick; they are not intended for mission-critical attachment. Also, remember that the lock is also a biggish chunk of plastic which affects the balance of your motor; precise location of that mass is necessary to not throw your motors out of balance.
I know they're so convenient, the temptation is there to use them for EVERYTHING. That's not such a good idea sometimes...
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Yeah sorry about the timing of the new thread.... repost the important stuff no worries.

Don't get me started on zip ties... lol
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Brian - That HobbyMate 800 is one of my picks; it is a rebranded BigAole BeastX clone. Let me know if you still have it and want to make a deal; I'm sure I must have SOMETHING you'll want.


Kozzy - I know; I've seen people zip-tie the motors to the frame too. I don't think it's a good idea, speaking as someone who uses zip-ties on a daily basis for what they're intended for:cable management. Zip-ties degrade under UV light; the locks get brittle with age and break because of exposure, even to fluorescent light. Remember, the "spring" part of a zip-tie is just a bit of plastic 0.020" thick; they are not intended for mission-critical attachment. Also, remember that the lock is also a biggish chunk of plastic which affects the balance of your motor; precise location of that mass is necessary to not throw your motors out of balance.

I know they're so convenient, the temptation is there to use them for EVERYTHING. That's not such a good idea sometimes...


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"Zip Tie" is Geek for "Duct Tape".
It was me that has the Hobbymate gyro and I think the postage might be a killer.

As for zip ties on mission critical stuff use thesewww.tradewarehouse.com.au/cable-ties-clips/stainless-steel-cable-ties-316-marine-grade.html Be a bugger to get them off though.

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The motor is attatched to the booms with some nice bolts, but I was going to attach the props to the motor bell with zipties.


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ORIGINAL: ahamay

Cranky Franky has re-opened the #16 thread -> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...ostcount=15104
I noticed he brought his "ball" back to the play ground!

His point is actually well made about thread management but as I've said all along, it ain't what he's sayin', it's HOW he's sayin' it!

All my life I've hated manner-less bullies and he needed a mirror held up to him!

I see only ONE of his little sycophant minions commented about his return.

I'm DONE "tweaking the brittle person" but still fantasize meeting that kind of person ITRW!

I actually do with some frequency but they are generally wetting themselves in the back cage of my truck on the way to the "grey bar" hotel where they will undoubtedly be traded for a pack of cigarettes by a guy named "Bubba" before midnight that night!

Now back to our previously televised program.....

On a seven day stretch here, day five!

b

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