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helicrazedout 06-20-2013 08:33 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 

ORIGINAL: Edmund2

Johnathan, no I have not used them as I tend to go to a LHS - lots of them around Pretoria- and get what I need as I am not very patient waiting. I ordered a planker via mail earlier this year and it has yet to arrive many months later though it did apparently ship. Gave up on ever receiving it.

My E-Sky Belt CP's gets repaired by a little Pakistani fellow at a flea market in the north of Pretoria as he charges only for the parts, no labor and the parts area cheaper than what I can get it for at other LHS'. Then he test flies it between the stalls and people. I posted a pic on another forum some years ago where he was landing a belt CP on his counter packed with goods and only the space for the blades to turn and customers all around him.

Edmund
The South African post can be very scary agreed :D If Pretoria was only a little closer i would go to this flea market just to see this guy fly, he sounds like a health hazard [X(] I hope he doesn't do that with the bigger birds take him your 550 see what happens :D
Brian that was some nice flying man i did not see that crash coming[X(] i was thinking of getting a smaller heli to play around with still shopping. I have to tell you i am really shocked at how well your MCP X BL handles outdoors i would of thought wind was more of an issue or maybe that's just your superior flying skills?:D

Jonathan

rikybob 06-20-2013 10:19 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
@ All - Had a REALLY nice morning.....started off by DRILLING my Slow Stik into the ground. I put a larger battery on it and it simply went it and I'm not exactly certain why. The part I need is prolly 1 USD to get it in the air and try again! I moved to two MQX flights and a total of EIGHT in the Align 500 BL! It was REALLY nice but I noticed a "degradation" by about the 6th battery pack of which I discuss on my 8th and last viddy (I will spare you the rest. You may thank me later)!

@ Johnathan - Yah, I notice that companies simply WON'T ship to South Africa and that is a shame! In America the shipping companies such as "Wells Fargo" and the "Pinkertons" used a novel way (and I AM suggesting this) to prevent loss of cargo in shipping. They used HEAVILY armed guards who were BRUTAL and simply KILLED the marauders and thieves. This put a STOP to the theft of cargo and is known and poplar in the history books. Attempt to rob their wagon train and your DEAD. Harsh? I think NOT! Speaking of harsh, yah, I was showing off with the little bird and as usual I got "served". The cool thing about the Blade MCP X BL or standard model is that the 3 in 1 board creates what I call an "artificial" mass. They really did a good job with that board and it shows in the BL model!

Here is the last viddy of the morning and I don't recall having EVER cooked off all 8 packs for a total of 50 plus minutes of flight!

All the best!!!

b

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10rA3QwxLH4[/youtube]

mnemennth 06-20-2013 01:21 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
State of the Art right now in FBL Controls

Hey guys; as you know, I've been researching FBL a lot lately, much of it at the urging of you guys. I've got a flying club buddy, Mason, who has some pretty 3D good piloting chops and has been messing about in helis; this guy has been flying a HK-250 with tail gyro unconfigured (and not plugged into the RX!) and now an HK-450V2 with Tarot DFC head and Detrum GY-48V tail gyro (Thankfully, configured and plugged into the RX at my urging). He really is a heck of a pilot, which is probably why he can fly these things "Full Manual Mode".

Here's some video of him hovering it last night:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmv-h0epfDU

<p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_71"><font size="2">So I promised him I'd consolidate what I've learned and send him an eMail with that and some links. I was hoping I could get you guys to look it over and tell me if I've gotten anything blatantly wrong, or missed something or some gear that's important.
</font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><font size="2">
</font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_281"><font size="2">Mason -</font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><font size="2">I've been researching FBL for a while now; my choice, based on price and the forums, would be either the Bigaole BGL007-007 or the Robird G31 if I can afford it, matched with 4 of Turnigy's TGY-396V or TGY-306G servos and a decent 5-10A SBEC to power it all.
</font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_301"><font size="2"><br id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_306" /></font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_73"><font size="2"><br id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_410" /></font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_407"><font size="2"><br id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_80" /></font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_77"><font size="2">The big names in FBL right now are Mikado, BeastX, Skookum, HeliCommand and of course Align.</font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><font size="2"><br id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_85" /></font></p><p style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;" id="yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_90"><font size="2">http://www.readyheli.com/MIK4357-Mini-V-Bar-V-52-Flybarless-Stabilization-System-p-37053.html</font></p>
http://www.helidirect.com/microbeast...sb-p-22947.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/skookum-ro...er-p-26481.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/bavariandemon-3sx-p-30875.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/align-3gx-...01-p-23880.hdx


Performance-wise, the Mikado V-Bar and HeliCommand Bavarian Demon are considered the high-end, and prices to match.


The Align 3GX is considered to be stable and adjustable, but a pain in the tuchus to set up right, and the products from Mikado, HeliCommand and arguably even BeastX have surpassed the Align technology. The last year has been one of rocket-paced development in FBL; there's no room for "Old trued and true" when there's a new, better model every month. And I mean that - there really IS a new, BETTER model every few weeks; development is moving that fast.

The popular "affordable" FBL units are Tarot's ZYX-S 3GX competitor and the Robird G31 in the $100 range, and the Mikado Mini-V-Bar and the BeastX at around $200; all will use Spektrum satellite receivers as a direct plug-in, so no messing about with oodles of servo patch cables and a regular RX.

The BeastX is considered to be the best "First" FBL, with simple, easy to configure programming right from the panel, no PC required, plus being able to fine-tune for more performance as your needs grow. The V-Bar is not as easy to program, but has a lot more performance-oriented "fine-tuning" variables available. The Robird is considered to have the best GUI for programming on the PC; HobbyKing AND Tarot both sell it, so it's pretty popular.

http://www.robirdusa.com/G31-Gyro

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ss_System.html

http://tarot-rc-heli.com/Robird-G31-with-Govenor

As you might guess, the V-Bar and BeastX are VERY popular and have spawned a number of clones; HK sells pretty much all of the sub-$100 FBL units and clones, even Tarot's ZYX-S Align 3GX clone:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...m_Adapter.html

Mini V-Bar clone:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ol_System.html

BeastX clone: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ol_System.html

http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php...licopters.html

http://www.r-hobbies.com/index.php?r...2#.UcK2l5yjiuM

All the above BeastX clones are rebranded Bigaole BGL007-007 units. Popular consensus is that these are a VERY good clone of the BeastX, but are susceptible to issues with power, so recommended to use a separate SWITCHING BEC of 5-10A capacity, especially if using digital servos. Truth is, that is actually a good recommendation for ANY FBL system, even the big name brands; most ESCs just don't provide enough current to be reliable with the heavy demand of robotic controls, which all FBL really are.


If you have the money and want name-brand peace-of-mind, Spektrum has listened to popular demand and released an integrated RX with BeastX FBL:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...em-SPMAR7200BX

And I just added this cuz I though you might like it like I do:

http://www.nitroplanes.com/projet-drone-2500mm-kit.html


Let me know what y'all think;


mnem
*Still flogging Axius CP*

rikybob 06-20-2013 02:56 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: mnemennth

State of the Art right now in FBL Controls

Hey guys; as you know, I've been researching FBL a lot lately, much of it at the urging of you guys. I've got a flying club buddy, Mason, who has some pretty 3D good piloting chops and has been messing about in helis; this guy has been flying a HK-250 with tail gyro unconfigured (and not plugged into the RX!) and now an HK-450V2 with Tarot DFC head and Detrum GY-48V tail gyro (Thankfully, configured and plugged into the RX at my urging). He really is a heck of a pilot, which is probably why he can fly these things ''Full Manual Mode''.

Here's some video of him hovering it last night:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmv-h0epfDU

<p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;'' id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_71''><font size=''2''>So I promised him I'd consolidate what I've learned and send him an eMail with that and some links. I was hoping I could get you guys to look it over and tell me if I've gotten anything blatantly wrong, or missed something or some gear that's important.
</font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;''><font size=''2''>
</font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;'' id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_281''><font size=''2''>Mason -</font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;''><font size=''2''>I've been researching FBL for a while now; my choice, based on price and the forums, would be either the Bigaole BGL007-007 or the Robird G31 if I can afford it, matched with 4 of Turnigy's TGY-396V or TGY-306G servos and a decent 5-10A SBEC to power it all.
</font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;'' id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_301''><font size=''2''><br id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_306'' /></font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;'' id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_73''><font size=''2''><br id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_410'' /></font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;'' id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_407''><font size=''2''><br id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_80'' /></font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;'' id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_77''><font size=''2''>The big names in FBL right now are Mikado, BeastX, Skookum, HeliCommand and of course Align.</font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;''><font size=''2''><br id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_85'' /></font></p><p style=''color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;'' id=''yui_3_7_2_27_1371755431727_90''><font size=''2''>http://www.readyheli.com/MIK4357-Mini-V-Bar-V-52-Flybarless-Stabilization-System-p-37053.html</font></p>
http://www.helidirect.com/microbeast...sb-p-22947.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/skookum-ro...er-p-26481.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/bavariandemon-3sx-p-30875.hdx


http://www.helidirect.com/align-3gx-...01-p-23880.hdx


Performance-wise, the Mikado V-Bar and HeliCommand Bavarian Demon are considered the high-end, and prices to match.


The Align 3GX is considered to be stable and adjustable, but a pain in the tuchus to set up right, and the products from Mikado, HeliCommand and arguably even BeastX have surpassed the Align technology. The last year has been one of rocket-paced development in FBL; there's no room for ''Old trued and true'' when there's a new, better model every month. And I mean that - there really IS a new, BETTER model every few weeks; development is moving that fast.

The popular ''affordable'' FBL units are Tarot's ZYX-S 3GX competitor and the Robird G31 in the $100 range, and the Mikado Mini-V-Bar and the BeastX at around $200; all will use Spektrum satellite receivers as a direct plug-in, so no messing about with oodles of servo patch cables and a regular RX.

The BeastX is considered to be the best ''First'' FBL, with simple, easy to configure programming right from the panel, no PC required, plus being able to fine-tune for more performance as your needs grow. The V-Bar is not as easy to program, but has a lot more performance-oriented ''fine-tuning'' variables available. The Robird is considered to have the best GUI for programming on the PC; HobbyKing AND Tarot both sell it, so it's pretty popular.

http://www.robirdusa.com/G31-Gyro

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ss_System.html

http://tarot-rc-heli.com/Robird-G31-with-Govenor

As you might guess, the V-Bar and BeastX are VERY popular and have spawned a number of clones; HK sells pretty much all of the sub-$100 FBL units and clones, even Tarot's ZYX-S Align 3GX clone:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...m_Adapter.html

Mini V-Bar clone:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ol_System.html

BeastX clone: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...ol_System.html

http://www.hobbypeople.net/index.php...licopters.html

http://www.r-hobbies.com/index.php?r...2#.UcK2l5yjiuM

All the above BeastX clones are rebranded Bigaole BGL007-007 units. Popular consensus is that these are a VERY good clone of the BeastX, but are susceptible to issues with power, so recommended to use a separate SWITCHING BEC of 5-10A capacity, especially if using digital servos. Truth is, that is actually a good recommendation for ANY FBL system, even the big name brands; most ESCs just don't provide enough current to be reliable with the heavy demand of robotic controls, which all FBL really are.


If you have the money and want name-brand peace-of-mind, Spektrum has listened to popular demand and released an integrated RX with BeastX FBL:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...em-SPMAR7200BX

And I just added this cuz I though you might like it like I do:

http://www.nitroplanes.com/projet-drone-2500mm-kit.html


Let me know what y'all think;


mnem
*Still flogging Axius CP*


GOOD GOD that's thorough.

Would'nt change a thing!

Now can you research the most easy and viability of buildint a nice quad that could carry a go pro replete with satallite return?

Yer pal,

b

Ddaddy 06-20-2013 04:40 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: rikybob



Now can you research the most easy and viability of buildint a nice quad that could carry a go pro replete with satallite return?


Dat Bat Bones over on flitetest looks sweet! especially the twin tail one :)
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rikybob 06-20-2013 04:42 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: Ddaddy



ORIGINAL: rikybob



Now can you research the most easy and viability of buildint a nice quad that could carry a go pro replete with satallite return?


Dat Bat Bones over on flitetest looks sweet! especially the twin tail one :)
<br type=''_moz'' />

Yah, just watched the 40 minute viddy. Pokin' around looking for a build for that for dummies!

b

ahamay 06-20-2013 04:50 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: mnemennth

State of the Art right now in FBL Controls

Hey guys; as you know, I've been researching FBL a lot lately, much of it at the urging of you guys. I've got a flying club buddy, Mason, who has some pretty 3D good piloting chops and has been messing about in helis; this guy has been flying a HK-250 with tail gyro unconfigured (and not plugged into the RX!) and now an HK-450V2 with Tarot DFC head and Detrum GY-48V tail gyro (Thankfully, configured and plugged into the RX at my urging). He really is a heck of a pilot, which is probably why he can fly these things "Full Manual Mode".
I have a bunch of the tgy-306 servos at home for my 450's but never installed them becuase I could not decide on a decent BEC so I still have the hitec's running of the 3amp plush bec. These 306's are a very good servo, I have them on the tail of both my 450's, but I would not run 4 of them off a 3amp bec.

If your looking at the zyx-s gyro price range around 50 bucks then it's quite possible that a decent BEC to run it all is going to cost more than the gyro. Some guys are running 4 x 306's on the yep 45 which has a 6amp peak bec with no problems but where do you draw the line. Another interesting thing I found out also is servo wires (or bec power) wires have a max 5 amp rating so some bec's will have two leads to connect to your reciever.

It's always nice to plan for worst case, but a lot of people have setups on the minimal side of safe escpecially with fbl and how they are drawing current like you mentioned.

Jonesy





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helicrazedout 06-20-2013 05:27 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: rikybob

@ All - Had a REALLY nice morning.....started off by DRILLING my Slow Stik into the ground. I put a larger battery on it and it simply went it and I'm not exactly certain why. The part I need is prolly 1 USD to get it in the air and try again! I moved to two MQX flights and a total of EIGHT in the Align 500 BL! It was REALLY nice but I noticed a ''degradation'' by about the 6th battery pack of which I discuss on my 8th and last viddy (I will spare you the rest. You may thank me later)!

@ Johnathan - Yah, I notice that companies simply WON'T ship to South Africa and that is a shame! In America the shipping companies such as ''Wells Fargo'' and the ''Pinkertons'' used a novel way (and I AM suggesting this) to prevent loss of cargo in shipping. They used HEAVILY armed guards who were BRUTAL and simply KILLED the marauders and thieves. This put a STOP to the theft of cargo and is known and poplar in the history books. Attempt to rob their wagon train and your DEAD. Harsh? I think NOT! Speaking of harsh, yah, I was showing off with the little bird and as usual I got ''served''. The cool thing about the Blade MCP X BL or standard model is that the 3 in 1 board creates what I call an ''artificial'' mass. They really did a good job with that board and it shows in the BL model!

Here is the last viddy of the morning and I don't recall having EVER cooked off all 8 packs for a total of 50 plus minutes of flight!

All the best!!!

b

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10rA3QwxLH4[/youtube]
I wish they took that approach over here haha:D the mail theft here is unbelievable, i know you are not supposed to send money in the mail but out of 5 times i sent money in the mail it got stolen twice. I was looking now if there is a place where i could get the MCP X BL and i cannot find a single lead[:o] dam you Brian for starting me on this mission may the Heli Gods curse you[>:] buuuuuuuuut.....i did find a shop that sells a mini heli called a WLtoys 911 and there is a 6ch one called the v922. Do you guys know if these helis are decent or not? and wow 8 packs that is quite something thanks for the video entertainment.

ingleburn 06-20-2013 10:53 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: helicrazedout

I wish they took that approach over here haha:D the mail theft here is unbelievable, i know you are not supposed to send money in the mail but out of 5 times i sent money in the mail it got stolen twice. I was looking now if there is a place where i could get the MCP X BL and i cannot find a single lead[:o] dam you Brian for starting me on this mission may the Heli Gods curse you[&gt;:] buuuuuuuuut.....i did find a shop that sells a mini heli called a WLtoys 911 and there is a 6ch one called the v922. Do you guys know if these helis are decent or not? and wow 8 packs that is quite something thanks for the video entertainment.
So what is the problem with sending something over there? Theft or high postage rates?
Im sure we could arrange to send stuff over to you unless its because of theft and then maybe the risk isnt worth it.


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mnemennth 06-20-2013 11:37 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
The V911 is a very small, 1S/120mah powered 4CHfixed pitch heli with flybar. You can buy them from banggood.com and TMart.com for US$35-40 RTF and US$20-25 BNF (Will bind to Turnigy 9X-9XR, etc family of hobby-grade TX); both vendors include worldwide free shipping at that price. They're a good intermediate step between coaxials and collective pitch; they are a toy heli for sure, but they carry every part to fix them, so kindof blurring the lines between toy and hobby grades.

The V922 is WLToys first foray into Collective Pitch and hobby-grade helis; IMO, they're made as well as an mCPX, and the firmware's right up there around as good as the brushed mCPX. The TX is barely better than toy grade, though the heli binds to FRSky, so there are a lot of folks flying them with the Turnigy 9X-9XR and the FrSky RF module.The above vendors typically have them around US$100; right now theyre US$94 from banggood and US$113 from TMart, as they're shipping from within the USA for USAcustomers.

If you're already flying collective pitch, the V911 will be boring except as something to play with indoors. The V922 will fly well indoors and outdoors, and should be up to most any 3D you can throw at it. Of course, the wind will toss it around like a leaf, but experienced pilots can still surf that. ;)

Good reviews and discussion of both can be found here:

V911:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904964

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1548027

V922:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1795419


mnem
*The ToyMaster*



rikybob 06-21-2013 03:12 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
I've been reading/writing/posting on the internet since the early days.

[link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25329139&postcount=15093]THIS[/link] is by far the best post I've EVER seen. Seriously.

< sniff, sniff >

Thanks Ingleburn!

b

ahamay 06-21-2013 03:52 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 

ORIGINAL: rikybob
I've been reading/writing/posting on the internet since the early days.
[link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25329139&amp;postcount=15093]THIS[/link] is by far the best post I've EVER seen. Seriously.
&lt; sniff, sniff &gt;
Thanks Ingleburn!
b
Resubscribed :)
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ingleburn 06-21-2013 05:10 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: ahamay


ORIGINAL: rikybob
I've been reading/writing/posting on the internet since the early days.
[link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25329139&amp;postcount=15093]THIS[/link] is by far the best post I've EVER seen. Seriously.
&lt; sniff, sniff &gt;
Thanks Ingleburn!
b
Resubscribed :)
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Yeah must have just taken my angry pills.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...ey/msn/lol.gif
I remember getting angry at our apprentice one day for doing something stupid then thinking about how I did the same things years ago.
Sometimes you have to remember that we were all beginners at one stage and asked stupid questions. And at some stage we will be new at something else and need help.
Hopefully Tom gets out of the right side of the bed tomorrow or else I might have to start another account.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...eeth_smile.gif
BTW Brian your post about manners was gold.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...sn/thumbup.gif
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Ddaddy 06-21-2013 09:14 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: rikybob

I've been reading/writing/posting on the internet since the early days.

[link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25329139&amp;postcount=15093]THIS[/link] is by far the best post I've EVER seen. Seriously.

&lt; sniff, sniff &gt;

Thanks Ingleburn!

b
Those Botany Bay decendents! The'tll never calm down ;)<br type="_moz" />

rikybob 06-21-2013 10:18 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
Yah the ***** shut the thread down, took his ball and went home.

Just to give folks a place to go and to kinda niggle him into opening the thread back up I started [link=http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1556994]THIS[/link].

It'll prolly fail and I'll get yelled at but a bully went home.

I like it.

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Ddaddy 06-21-2013 10:51 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya'll got the thread closed! Ya'll are impressive!

rikybob 06-21-2013 10:55 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: Ddaddy

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya'll got the thread closed! Ya'll are impressive!

DOH! [8D]

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helicrazedout 06-21-2013 11:02 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 

ORIGINAL: mnemennth

The V911 is a very small, 1S/120mah powered 4CH fixed pitch heli with flybar. You can buy them from banggood.com and TMart.com for US$35-40 RTF and US$20-25 BNF (Will bind to Turnigy 9X-9XR, etc family of hobby-grade TX); both vendors include worldwide free shipping at that price. They're a good intermediate step between coaxials and collective pitch; they are a toy heli for sure, but they carry every part to fix them, so kindof blurring the lines between toy and hobby grades.

The V922 is WL Toys first foray into Collective Pitch and hobby-grade helis; IMO, they're made as well as an mCPX, and the firmware's right up there around as good as the brushed mCPX. The TX is barely better than toy grade, though the heli binds to FR Sky, so there are a lot of folks flying them with the Turnigy 9X-9XR and the FrSky RF module.The above vendors typically have them around US$100; right now theyre US$94 from banggood and US$113 from TMart, as they're shipping from within the USA for USA customers.

If you're already flying collective pitch, the V911 will be boring except as something to play with indoors. The V922 will fly well indoors and outdoors, and should be up to most any 3D you can throw at it. Of course, the wind will toss it around like a leaf, but experienced pilots can still surf that. ;)

Good reviews and discussion of both can be found here:

V911:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904964

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1548027

V922:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1795419


mnem
*The ToyMaster*



Great post answered everything i needed to know, very valuable info from RCgroups. i think i am going to order the V922 looks like a nice little heli to play around with, also the collective pitch factor kinda sold me if only it were brush-less. Think it best after what i read to stay away from the V911 leaning too much on the toy side. I wonder how the v922 handles crashes.

@ingleburn yeah i would say a combination of both the shipping fees are almost more then what you want to buy. Not too long ago i was going to order an HK-600gt from hobbyking the shipping alone came close to $90 so i of course did not do it. The South African postal service has never been great it is like playing roulette when you order something. For example remember i said i ordered an HK-450v2....well it still hasn't arrived so i continue to hold thumbs. Some lowly paid postal worker probably took it home to his son thinking he was such a cool dad and his son is probably like "Dad how do i fly this, what is this? considering it is only a bare kit haha...thanks so much for offering to help much appreciated but i think it is best you do not as the risk is too high.
i do eventually get what i want it just takes a long time.

Jonathan

rikybob 06-21-2013 11:06 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: helicrazedout


ORIGINAL: mnemennth

The V911 is a very small, 1S/120mah powered 4CH fixed pitch heli with flybar. You can buy them from banggood.com and TMart.com for US$35-40 RTF and US$20-25 BNF (Will bind to Turnigy 9X-9XR, etc family of hobby-grade TX); both vendors include worldwide free shipping at that price. They're a good intermediate step between coaxials and collective pitch; they are a toy heli for sure, but they carry every part to fix them, so kindof blurring the lines between toy and hobby grades.

The V922 is WL Toys first foray into Collective Pitch and hobby-grade helis; IMO, they're made as well as an mCPX, and the firmware's right up there around as good as the brushed mCPX. The TX is barely better than toy grade, though the heli binds to FR Sky, so there are a lot of folks flying them with the Turnigy 9X-9XR and the FrSky RF module.The above vendors typically have them around US$100; right now theyre US$94 from banggood and US$113 from TMart, as they're shipping from within the USA for USA customers.

If you're already flying collective pitch, the V911 will be boring except as something to play with indoors. The V922 will fly well indoors and outdoors, and should be up to most any 3D you can throw at it. Of course, the wind will toss it around like a leaf, but experienced pilots can still surf that. ;)

Good reviews and discussion of both can be found here:

V911:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1904964

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1548027

V922:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1795419


mnem
*The ToyMaster*



Great post answered everything i needed to know, very valuable info from RCgroups. i think i am going to order the V922 looks like a nice little heli to play around with, also the collective pitch factor kinda sold me if only it were brush-less. Think it best after what i read to stay away from the V911 leaning too much on the toy side. I wonder how the v922 handles crashes.

@ingleburn yeah i would say a combination of both the shipping fees are almost more then what you want to buy. Not too long ago i was going to order an HK-600gt from hobbyking the shipping alone came close to $90 so i of course did not do it. The South African postal service has never been great it is like playing roulette when you order something. For example remember i said i ordered an HK-450v2....well it still hasn't arrived so i continue to hold thumbs. Some lowly paid postal worker probably took it home to his son thinking he was such a cool dad and his son is probably like ''Dad how do i fly this, what is this? considering it is only a bare kit haha...thanks so much for offering to help much appreciated but i think it is best you do not as the risk is too high.
i do eventually get what i want it just takes a long time.

Jonathan

Jonathan,

Is there UPS or FedEx over there??

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helicrazedout 06-21-2013 11:11 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
@rikybob there is but they seem to be a bit on the expensive side, you might have a point though i should look into it more closely. Also i did not see those options when i was trying to order from hobbyking :D

helicrazedout 06-21-2013 11:17 AM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
sorry funny story i wanted to share quick. i sold my Thundercat 31 boat today (gonna buy an electric boat soon) anyway i had to ship it to a guy that was 650km away so i went to posnet and got shipping quotes. DHL offered to ship it for R3019. about $300...which is more then i got for the dam boat hahaha[X(][X(] so i ended up going with a South African courier company that charged me R550 or about $55

rikybob 06-21-2013 12:56 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: Ddaddy

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya'll got the thread closed! Ya'll are impressive!

Yah, some crazy @ S S mod over there gave me a "demerit" b/c I +1'd Ingleburn. Says I "cursed" or some such simply by quoting Ingleburn. Of course all the others that quoted him got bupkiss! I've NEVER got a demerit before but I'll take this one!:D

So's I says to myself, "Self, even though many folks find his snotty, abusive behavior acceptable, I don't!" and proceeded to call his self out on it.[:'(]

He needs to learn manners, pure and simple.[:@]

If he spoke to me the ITRW the way he does on the forums, well lets say he would only do it once.:)

Bad behavior is bad behavior.

Dick.

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ingleburn 06-21-2013 02:20 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 


ORIGINAL: helicrazedout


@ingleburn yeah i would say a combination of both the shipping fees are almost more then what you want to buy. Not too long ago i was going to order an HK-600gt from hobbyking the shipping alone came close to $90 so i of course did not do it. The South African postal service has never been great it is like playing roulette when you order something. For example remember i said i ordered an HK-450v2....well it still hasn't arrived so i continue to hold thumbs. Some lowly paid postal worker probably took it home to his son thinking he was such a cool dad and his son is probably like "Dad how do i fly this, what is this? considering it is only a bare kit haha...thanks so much for offering to help much appreciated but i think it is best you do not as the risk is too high.
i do eventually get what i want it just takes a long time.

Jonathan
Yeah I just checked the AUS POST website and postage over to there is a bit on the high side. auspost.com.au/apps/international-parcel.html
The prices on that page are for up to 1 Kg. Now take HK for example. A 1 Kg parcel sent registered air mail to here is only $18.

So Tom shut down his thread. The problem with bullies is they dont like to get poked back. Never mind he has a lot of other threads to continue his behaviour.
Yeah I got a warning as well. 1 point I think and 10 points will give you a 1 month ban. How many other threads has he got.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...ey/msn/lol.gif

If I ever get a Mobius I pray to god I never have a problem with it. Might be a long wait for an answer.
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ahamay 06-21-2013 05:30 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 

ORIGINAL: rikybob

ORIGINAL: Ddaddy
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ya'll got the thread closed! Ya'll are impressive!
Yah, some crazy @ S S mod over there gave me a "demerit" b/c I +1'd Ingleburn. Says I "cursed" or some such simply by quoting Ingleburn. Of course all the others that quoted him got bupkiss! I've NEVER got a demerit before but I'll take this one!:D
So's I says to myself, "Self, even though many folks find his snotty, abusive behavior acceptable, I don't!" and proceeded to call his self out on it.[:'(]
He needs to learn manners, pure and simple.[:@]
If he spoke to me the ITRW the way he does on the forums, well lets say he would only do it once.:)
Bad behavior is bad behavior.
Dick.
b
Cranky Franky closes threads when he doesn't want too many off topic discussions going on or if his forum etiquitte is not being followed. Once they all get over themselves it will be all good again. The new mobius thread is turning to b i t c h fighting already and the camera has not even been released yet.
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ahamay 06-21-2013 05:38 PM

RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III
 
<span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">New Thread Alert </span>-&gt; as per prevoius discussion about the sub standard forum performance, a new thread has been created. Please don't post in this thread any more. Follow this link to the new thread and dn't forget to subscribe to the new thread as well.

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Intensely Calm 02-07-2014 05:49 PM

mnemennth,

Just ran across your post (RE: HK-450GT CCPM Alloy T-Rex compatible - Part III / 05-16-2013) referencing the 9x and the Spectrum Integrated Air Modules you modified...
I am currently looking to set up an Any Link, in a module (the Spectrum Integrated Air cases look perfect) that I can use with my 9x.

Unfortunately, I've had little luck finding reliable info on taking the PCB from the Any Link and fitting it to a Module enclosure.
It appears the dimensions will jive, but I would like to hear how you set up the connection point between the Module and the receiver.

I hope to set my version up as a true "plug-n-play" type module, similar to what you appear to have done.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Intensely Calm


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