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ME 109 Electric - 9/2/2003 7:49 PM   
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I just got a real deal on a Model Tech Messerschmitt ME109 ARF 25 size NIB.

weighs 3.2 #
wingspan 45"
length 37#
Wing area 360
4 channel

Anybody have any ideas on how to set it up for decent electric flight?

I don't need a barn burner, just want a nice solid flying plane.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill

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ME 109 Electric - 9/3/2003 3:59 AM   
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Hope you don't mind, but I moved your post over here because this forum is the one that focuses on exactly what you want to do.

The first question is, "How much do you want to spend?" This plane can be made to perform satisfactorily on a cheap car motor and NiCd cells, but a brushless motor would really bring it alive.

My next question is, is that weight you quote off the box, or did you weigh the empty airframe? If it's 3.5 pounds without the radio gear and engine, it's one heavy mamba-jamba, and may not be suitable for electric flight, or flight at all.

Off the top of my head, I think you can run a Kyosho Endoplasma, geared, on 8-10 cells. I'd try a 4.6:1 ratio with a 12x8 APC Thin Electric prop and 10 cells, myself. You might be able to use the same cell count on a 3.8:1 and run a smaller 10x6 prop. The gearbox is a Great Planes GD600 using various pinions.

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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/9/2003 9:38 AM   
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I have the ME-109, but I have a Thunder Tiger .25 in it. I think you may have choosen a tough one to convert. If you need that big of prop to make it work you are going to need to extent the langing gear. I am using a 9x6 prop and there is very little clearance. I don't think you could safely use anything longer with the stock gear. As a matter of fact, the first time I gave it some gas, I didn't have full up elevator and I broke the prop. This was kind of a bummer since it was the maiden flight and I didn't bring a spare. I have been flying it for about 6 months now. This plane is a barn burner. I am still new to the hobby, but this plane is fast. But it is fun.

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I just thought of adding this. The TT .25 while take it vertical far enough where I cannot comfortably see the plane anymore. I have not tried any hovering, as with this plane I don't think its really possible and with my skills its not possible. Unless you are a Tim Taylor type the .25 has more than ample power for the plane. I don't know how to convert that to E-power, but I hope it helps.

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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/11/2003 8:04 AM   
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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/11/2003 3:36 PM   
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Thank you very much. That was just what I needed.

On another note, do you know where I can buy a digital scale?

I really need one.

Thanks, Bill


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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/11/2003 10:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I bought one by Sunbeam at Office Depot for under $40. It weighs up to 5lbs and weighs either in grams or ounces down to 1gr or .1 oz.

BTW, Ezone is the premiere website for electric RC airplanes. You'll get more answers to electric questions there plus you can search the forums to find a lot of information. RCUniverse seems to be more suited for IC RC airplanes.

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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/11/2003 10:40 PM   
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Thank you again.

Bill

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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/15/2003 2:49 AM   
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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/9/2007 4:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, It is almost 4 years to the day & I am just getting around to starting this conversion. The dust on the Model Tech box was almost an inch thick (Talk about procrastination)

There has been a world of improvements in Electric Flight inthe last 4 years.

I am looking at an Eflite 15 as a starting point.


$$$ are almost no problem within reason.

Any help guys???

I will be flying it with a Spectrum DX 7.

Bill

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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/11/2007 7:46 PM   
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RE: ME 109 Electric - 9/28/2007 12:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a Modeltech 40 size ME109 that I am going to convert to electric. I plan on using one of the new Quantum motors by KMS, not quite sure which one yet. Any suggestions are welcome.

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RE: ME 109 Electric - 11/30/2007 4:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here are pic's of my Electric ME 109 I did.. I now have in a kit

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84" wing span
18lbs ready to fly
E-flite 160
Castle Creations 110HV
2 Dualsky 5000 mah 5 cell batteries
20x10 APC-E prop

Here is a thread on it:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=734504

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RE: ME 109 Electric - 2/11/2008 1:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jim Finn

Here is a photo of my Midwest Messershmitt that is powered with a Jeti Phasor Motor and 10 cells.

Jim, which motor did you use? I have a partially completed kit, I purchased last year. I recently looked through it and now your pic has me thinking about completing it.
cheers jollyroger

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RE: ME 109 Electric - 11/3/2008 11:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I maiden mine yesterday for the first time. My modefltech ME-109 is a 3 channel setup. I hand launch it. I did not mount the landing gear. I used a Turnigy SK-3536 motor, 2200mah lipo and a 40AMP ESC w/bec. 2 standard servo's and reciever. The total weight of the plane came out to 2lbs 10oz. The motor with a APC 11x8 prop is producing 360watts of power. This plane is a bueaty to fly. Very nice rolls and large loops. The fly by's look real cool also. I did not like the silver color of the wings and body so I used steel wool on the top surface of the wing and the side surface of the body. I than mask off the yellow monokote and used Olive drab rustoleum paint. Looks more like a real ME-109 now. Not totally scale but better.

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