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Old 10-27-2017, 05:25 PM
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The plans this is cut from and that I'm using are the Duellist MKII plans available on Outerzone, and blown up by 24 or 25%. Pay close attention to the rib profiles, there are errors there that get worse at the bigger scale.
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Old 10-27-2017, 07:22 PM
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Cool, thank you.
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Old 02-03-2018, 11:11 AM
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What's the size of the spinners, and what retracts did you go with?

Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2018, 11:30 AM
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Default Looking good Jeff!!

Everything is looking great!! Any updates on your progress? I had planned to already be working on mine, but Iím still mired in the finishing process of my Top Flite Cessna Skylane. Iíve got the engines and pipes now too (NovaRossi 61 speeds rear exhaust). I also would like to know about which retracts youíre using? I was thinking of Spring Airís, but Iím not sure if theyíre even selling them anymore. I definitely like your ideas on saving weight. Iím going to glass and paint mine, but Iím going to lighten up the formers and ribs as much as possible...looking good!!!
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Old 02-04-2018, 11:37 AM
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Wow, has it really been that long since I posted? This plane got set aside for a while, holidays, kitchen project, out of town visitors, and a Proctor Jenny, all put a stop to it. I'll get back on it in the next couple of weeks.

To answer your questions, I'm using 2 1/2" 3-blade spinners,and the retracts are Spring-Air 102HD units that I had in my stash. I hope they hold up!
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Old 12-30-2018, 04:54 AM
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Hi everyone!!

Not sure if anyone is still here but I have started to build the 240 Mk 2 and after reading through the forums here it has given me a bit more confidence.
I have not build a lot but my father has and I was seriously concerned with the way the fuselage is constructed with the duelist but no longer.

So far both halves of the wing have progressed well and the formers and tabs for the fuselage are glued and waiting for something to be joined to them!
I plan to put x2 OS 55AX motors or x2 OS 46's. (This is not the 260 Duelist remember!)
Also would like a servo for each aileron as well as elevator and servoless retracts.............

Hope I am not talking to myself here ha ha!
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Old 12-30-2018, 09:49 AM
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Do yourself a BIG favor before you start your plane. Re-read post #590, especially the part about the wing rib profiles.

That's not all that's wrong with the plan, Everything is!

Years ago I purchased a copy of the plan from MAN - not a cheap, distorted copy of a copy from some copyright violator - with the intention of building the plane.

Critical items like the overhead drawing of the fuselage are wrong - it's wider on one side than the other. It also curves like a banana. The bulkheads don't match the views for width and height. The ribs are totally incorrect. Wings are not of equal span. It's a total mess.

In fact, it was so bad that I rejected the project and moved on to a different, similar machine. And only one former was off - by 1/8" in width. Everything else was spot on. What a relief.

I also prefer that choice as it has a tapered leading edge wing with a straight trailing edge. It's also less complicated to build. Also takes only 2 balsa blocks in the nose as opposed to the balsa block factory required for the Duellist and looks very fast and mean when converted to a taildragger on carbon fiber swept back main gear.

You will also need a landing gear mod if you use the OS 55 engines. As it is designed, there is insufficient ground clearance for the required props on those engines.

It's a big project with all the considerations which will develop along the way. My advice is to carefully "build" it in your mind several steps ahead of the actual construction to anticipate the problems which will arise so that you can make the necessary changes that will prevent you from building yourself into a corner.
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Old 01-01-2019, 12:21 AM
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Default Building at the moment.........

Hi and thanks for the reply.

At the moment both wing halves are done but not yet sheeted.
There is 1mm difference between the two and having had the major parts laser cut by a good local modeller I think that side of things is fine.
Am also nearly ready to sheet the fuselage and have also noticed that it is quite straight without any of the banana tendencies you state.

When building I always have a good look at what I need to do well before I do it.

Regarding the 55's I have no problem playing with the gear length to suit but more than likely will use 3 bladed props at the expense of a little bit of performance.

Cheers.
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:50 AM
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For some reason RCU stopped notifying me of forum updates and just now (!!) saw your post, looks great.

I think I agree that DLE wouldn't be a good fit for this plane and the lines it has.

Bill S.
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Old 02-22-2019, 03:05 AM
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Default No no no

No way in hell would this model be nice with a gasser or electric.....grrrrrr bloody battery boys!
OK OK OK This model COULD be nice Electric.

Some things that really annoy me so far with the build -
Making the fuse different to the tried and trusted formers and sides meeting in one.
FFS this thing will be super quick, no need to glue the formers to a board and build around them to be more streamlined!?!?
No main spar for the wing?!?
REALLY!?!?! When the wing also has x2 nacelles and motors upon it!?!?
Leading edge - OMFG argh! I today MADE MY OWN leading edge tool to make same. No balsa company makes that size anymore. How about a tooth on the front of the ribs mating a square balsa piece and then the wing sheeting meets on that and can be sanded EASILY to shape?!
Oh no.....you would rather a tapered rib from centre to tip that of course has to fit the profile of the nacelle that is built separately to the wing and or model lol....um, yeah ok........







Originally Posted by Twin_Flyer View Post
For some reason RCU stopped notifying me of forum updates and just now (!!) saw your post, looks great.

I think I agree that DLE wouldn't be a good fit for this plane and the lines it has.

Bill S.

YA THINK!?!?!?!?!

CAN I PLEASE TALK TO RECENT BUILDERS OF THIS MODEL!?!?!? YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PM OR EMAIL FIRST WITHOUT MY PRIOR CONSENT YES!!!

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Grrrrr..............
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I still have my Super Duelist kit.. the one that was put together by the
guys here at RCU years ago... I would sell it if anyone's interested..
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