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Old 09-17-2007, 03:14 PM
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Hi guys,
I have a Dualist 2/60 that I have had for a couple of years now and have decided that I am not going to build it. I really don't remember what I paid for it, but I do remember that there were only a few of them kitted. the kit has a number on it as to what number it is. I would have to go down and open it up to find the exact number that it is.
If any of you fellas are interested in it please respond to the post or if you have any questions about it post up and I will try to answer your Querry.
Thanks
Rich Paterra
Old 09-17-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default RE: dualist 2/60

Rich,
You got it at the end of 2004 and paid around 100$ for it from NE-Aero ...
You bought one of the fifty kits that were done then...

Robby
Old 09-17-2007, 03:32 PM
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How much are you asking for the kit? Who is the manufacturer?

I will accept a PM if you wish......

Thanks,

Bo
Old 09-17-2007, 04:09 PM
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Bo,
The kit is from NE-AERO.COM
And guys,, please do take it via PMs as we are not suppose to be selling in the forums.. ok.

Thanks,
Robby
Old 09-17-2007, 06:34 PM
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thanks Robby,
I was looking for some of the information on it.I just looked on the box and I bought the kit from a john Mussellman from Des Moins, Washington, and I really don't remember what I bought it for.
Bo.....do a shearch on the dualest here and it will give you some idea of what the kit is all about.
Rich
Old 09-17-2007, 06:36 PM
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Robby,
Can you tell me if they are still making the kit?
Old 09-17-2007, 06:46 PM
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Hi all...

I have built three Pica Dalists and curently have a COX Duelist ARF.

Like to try the biog one!

Bo
Old 09-17-2007, 08:19 PM
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The kit is not currently avail...

If there is enough interest NE-AERO will cut out a few more..

NE-AERO was doing it as an ARF but that has been shevled for a while..

Don't hold me to it but I believe Mr. Mussellman put that up for sale
fall of '05 ...
Old 09-17-2007, 08:21 PM
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I'll take one....Bo
Old 09-17-2007, 08:23 PM
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...or..if the plans and templates are available, maybe Precision or Laser Lizard can cut some kits....Bo
Old 09-17-2007, 08:32 PM
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Bo,
It is a copyrighted product so no one else can legally cut it..

If you contact NE-AERO.COM you can inquire if they can cut you one..

Orrrrrr,, you could just get the one from rpat (Rich)
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Default RE: dualist 2/60

As a sort of update, NE-Aero is still listing the Super Duelist (their spelling) on their web site, but not selling it.
Old 10-08-2008, 06:38 PM
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Sorry guys,
I sold mine to a fella in Canada about a year ago.
I tried to get a cox dualist by emailing cox but never got a reply.
Rich
Old 10-08-2008, 07:15 PM
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Rich...I got one of the first COX airframes and it left a lot to be desired as far as developement and engineering. But, once I got the bugs worked out...it's a really nice plane.

Here are some pics....

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Default RE: dualist 2/60

Here's the response I received to my inquiry, sent this afternoon.

Pat,



Thanks for your interest in the Super Duelist. As we release more information on this airplane, I’ll ensure you get on the distribution list. We have just had a manufacturing prototype made and will begin working with it shortly. When that happens, I’ll send around and post some additional pictures.



Sincerely,

John

Northeast Aerodynamics, Inc.

PO Box 1054

Hollis, NH 03049

603.465.6508

www.ne-aero.com
So, things are looking good for a new kit of the 2/60 or Super Duelist. Perhaps some of you would like to have your names added to NE-Aero's email list as potential kit buyers.
Old 10-08-2008, 08:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: rpat

Sorry guys,
I sold mine to a fella in Canada about a year ago.
I tried to get a cox dualist by emailing cox but never got a reply.
Rich
Tee hee.

Fella in Canada
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you da man MJD
Old 10-19-2008, 09:32 PM
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Hi all,

I thought I'd post a picture of the Super Duelist prototype with more detail on my web site.



On the picture of the wing bottom, you'll notice the ailerons are the outboard panel and the inboard panel are a set of split-flaps.
Old 10-19-2008, 10:15 PM
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John,

That looks SWEET.

I have Super D kit 114. It is ready for glass work. Just don't have the time right now to finish it.

DUDE THAT IS SWEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Very nice, John. I'm interested in the ARC version.

Thanks for the update.

Old 10-27-2008, 09:48 PM
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should be an awsome plane
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Default RE: dualist 2/60

John:

I noticed the ARF on your website and was disappointed to see it's not available yet.

I would've bought one on the spot!

I'll bet you get a rush of orders when it comes out.

All us old guys familiar with your Twin Airs and the Duellist know they are sweet flyers.


mt
Old 10-28-2008, 12:48 PM
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Hi John,

I´m Carlos from Spain, I bought from you a twin air last year. Awesome plane, super forgiving, lands perfect and flys on one engine!
I´m interested in your Super Duellist. When the plane is ready, is possible for you to send me one of them to Spain?
It would be a shock in my club!!!

Regards,
Carlos

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Northeast Aero,
How did you compensate for the higher thrust line?
Old 11-01-2008, 11:33 PM
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CrateCruncher,

The full answer can get drawn out and lengthy, but let me try and get you an answer.

To be absolutely nuetral, the thrust line should go through the CG point of the airplane. Note that the CG point is the single point that the model would rotate around in 3-dimensions. On a flat wing (no dihedral) the gear will pull the CG point below the wing. The Super Duelist has dihedral built into the wings and a tall fusleage and fin which pulls the CG point up. When the gear is down the CG point is well below the wing. When the gear is up the CG point should be pretty close to the new thrust line of the nacelles but still slightly below. The CG point is aligned with the central axis of the fuselage. The effect is an axial roll on the central axis line through the fuselage.

Now here is where this become academic: Where you locate and the weight of your radio gear, the servos, the batteries, air-cylinders for the retracts etc, all have an effect on the CG point of the airplane which moves it. Sometimes it moves it up and sometimes down but the thrust line stays the same. The model will just fly with a slightly different set of characteristics. Depending on how minor or major the differences are will determine if you notice it or not. The thrust line is just one attribute of many.

I know that this arrangement works very well on the Twin-Air airplanes.

I hope this answers your quesiton

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