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Old 07-22-2008, 11:51 AM
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Default RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 piece wing and more

Gary, already printed #106 out to use as a reference.

Heck it would be great if you put out a "rebuild" kit. I'd be first in line.
Let me know.


Yeah the VQ is just plain jinxed. First the crappy glue job on the gondola, and fowler flaps, then one of my other birds took a header off the rack and kamakazed into it doing even more damage. Then just to top it off, had one of the packs let go on it's first set of taxi runs.

Looked impressive, smoke billowing out of the right boom area. Looked like it was returning home after being shot up. [:@]
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"Looked impressive, smoke billowing out of the right boom area. Looked like it was returning home after being shot up."

So, do you get extra points from the scale judges?

All kidding aside, sorry for your problems, but eagerly awaiting Gary's maiden!
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Gary, already printed #106 out to use as a reference.

Heck it would be great if you put out a "rebuild" kit. I'd be first in line.
Let me know.


Yeah the VQ is just plain jinxed. First the crappy glue job on the gondola, and fowler flaps, then one of my other birds took a header off the rack and kamakazed into it doing even more damage. Then just to top it off, had one of the packs let go on it's first set of taxi runs.

Looked impressive, smoke billowing out of the right boom area. Looked like it was returning home after being shot up. [:@]
Pictures or video?

Let me know how it goes with #106. I need to know if it can be printed out in the correct scale, based on the dimensions included.

Nitro sold or is selling a lot of these I think, and I would really like to make "up-grade kits" available. I may enlist a friend to help with the production. I would supply formers , mounts, and other vital wood parts (and maybe the hinges), and the CF wing tubes and sleeves, and the builder would supply the stock wood and supplies.

Gotta get this thing in the air first.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:12 AM
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Like this? Right gun pod / battery location, afterwards. And packs that were in the right pod.

Whole bottom/right side of the bird looks like it flew thru a flak attack, soot stains and spots all the way to the tails.


Anyhow, may your luck be better. And keep me posted on the kits if you go that route.
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WOW, what a shame. Looks repairable though.

I'm definitely going to offer a kit for the kit. We need to come up with a catchy name for the concept. Moref-N-ARF, or ARF Transformers. I don't know....Something like that. Maybe just RTI -ARF- MODS (ready to install ARF modifications). I'm getting with a friend this week end to talk about it.
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If you do that, note I'll be interested also,
I have not a lot of time with my job
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Is there any reason , for batery burning ?
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Is it yours ?
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If you do that, note I'll be interested also,
I have not a lot of time with my job
Thanks for the encouragement. When they are ready, I will post their availability and cost here first, for those interested among you who have been following my work. Then, I'll probably make them available in the market section. That is the way I see it now anyway. Ideas or feedback will always be appreciated.

I will do international shipping on these also.
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Default RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 piece wing and more

Dom, that's my name sake.


Gary, start working on a kit for me. I just sold my VQ. I got a notice yesterday about someone wanting it. E-mailed him photos to show everything, and was made a very generous offer.

The buyer is going to convert it back to gas. So Saturday I'll be stripping out the electronics, and crating it up.

I'm going to order a N/P version soon as the check clears.
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Default RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 piece wing and more

Roger that. Question. How would you feel about getting the kit with all the formers and mounts for everything with some instructions, and then a list of parts I used with their sources, for all the other stuff. If I try and supply everything (except the gear) it will take awhile and be quite an outlay of money up front for me. A lot of the stuff a guy can order and then be working on other things while he waits for delivery, especially since I have already done all the engineering to make the parts I'll list work.

These ARFs are cookie-cutter so I think this will all work well. I'd like some feedback on that scenario, from you who are interested in the conversion. Thanks.

PS....congratulations on your sale. Probably much better an outcome than you even hoped for.
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Gary, that type kit would be perfect. I probably already have a lot of the hardware/struts/ retracts and such already. I just want you for your mind, not your money.

And yes the outcome was MUCH better, I had actually planned on tossing it in the bonfire, I was so upset about it.


Dom, I'm sorry I missed your question. Honestly I don't know. I've looked inside the gun pod to see if I could find any sort of sharp area left from when I glassed them, but I found none.

Only 2 of the 3 cells exploded in the one pack, the other pack just got scorched. Voltage check on the basicly undamaged pack showed nearly 12 volts, so there was no under draw.

The two packs on the other side were fine and they were all wired together to make a 6S2P pack. I'm just guessing but one of the cells just left go, and took out the other one. The main leads on the pack were undamaged, even the charge leads were only scorched where the fire occured.
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It's seem very strange . Lipo can be sometimes dangerous, Hope you can repair easyly

For Gary, can you tell me where do yo buy your wheels because I don't find exactly the scale model I want. I don't find in France ( prices are too expensives and no more choice)
For retract I have found what I need . I"ll order after my holidays in 15 days
I'll begin to cut wings .. I'll send you pictures as soon as begin.

Have a look to the web site of my club ( http://www.maca62.fr) we organise Ă* meeting in august for 5 years and we have a great project , to cross over the Channel with 1/2 scale
Blériot XI, in july 2009, for the 100 birthday of the crossing
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It's seem very strange . Lipo can be sometimes dangerous, Hope you can repair easyly

For Gary, can you tell me where do yo buy your wheels because I don't find exactly the scale model I want. I don't find in France ( prices are too expensives and no more choice)
For retract I have found what I need . I"ll order after my holidays in 15 days
I'll begin to cut wings .. I'll send you pictures as soon as begin.

Have a look to the web site of my club ( http://www.maca62.fr) we organise Ă* meeting in august for 5 years and we have a great project , to cross over the Channel with 1/2 scale
Blériot XI, in july 2009, for the 100 birthday of the crossing
I looked in on your site. What a great project. Looks like all are having a good time with it. Impressive making your own engine as well. Please keep us posted on the progress and flight.

On the tires, the mains I found on eBay. Aluminum hubs and close to the correct scale size. lavacahobby@aol is the email of the seller. I paid $17.26 including the shipping. I have seen them advertised since. The nose tire is Sullivan.

I'm having trouble accessing my pictures. Lightning struck my house and damaged my main computer. This is a new one but I need to get the files out of the hard drive from the old one, including all my construction pictures. Sure hope I didn't loose them. I posted most of them here at least.
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Default RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 piece wing and more

thank you
if all get well , the first engine arrive in september and just after the firt trial ! sure I send some pictures
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Default RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 piece wing and more

'P-38 Improvement Kit (I Kit)' update. How does that name grab ya?

I met with a disabled friend of mine over the week end and now have a plan for production. He is happy to have something to work on. He will cut out and sand and bag all the parts using my patterns, and I will supply all the materials, a brief manual (NOT in broken Chinese/English), and a parts list for all the equipment I used and their sources, with each kit. The rest is well documented here in this forum, but I can always be reached via email or PM for further assistance. I'm also going to include my phone number in each kit.

If others find better ways to do something than I used, or better sources, hopefully they will post them here for us all.

Now I just need to gather up all the patterns and tweak them, and we are off. Hope to have him cutting within a few days. Stand by.
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Default RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 piece wing and more

Jeeze, Gary, may not be able to understand directions that aren't in Chingrish. And maybe you should not include some of the steps. I'd feel more at home then. Be just like building a NitroPlanes version.

Dom, very impressive site. That's one heck of a plane.
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Default RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 piece wing and more

coming back from holidays ..
so I can begin to transform my P38
can you tell me when the first kit will be ready ?
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coming back from holidays ..
so I can begin to transform my P38
can you tell me when the first kit will be ready ?
Hope to have some ready in a week or so. I will have the bill of materials and parts in the kit, but will also post it here for a jump start to those who want to get a head start on gathering the supplies. Much of the info is here already, but I intend to consolidate it into one post for convenience sake. Have fun. It is a challenge, but very rewarding.
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that's nice, so I'll wait to start and tell me when you can send the kit of the kit ! don't miss the price and shipping cost
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Default RE: Nitroplanes 90" P-38 (1/7 scale) with 3 piece wing and more

GARY.... Please dont forget about me I have been waiting patiently
I want to start on my P-38 this FALL.. and work on it all winter and
be ready next spring.
I am really wanting mine to look alot like yours.
PLEASE enclose in the sub kits what FOAM you used
ohhh and your pics.. would be a great help to .. I know you have
taken some good ones.
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I won't forget about anyone. Just keep looking in on this thread and I will let everyone know when they are ready. Thanks for your interest and I look forward to seeing the progress on your 38s. Maybe Nitro will step to the plate and make things easier on us with some mods of their own ya think?
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Got some work done on the plumbing and gear control. I used the area below the air tank to make a slide-out tray with the air valve and servo as a unit for easy install and service. The fiberglass nose of the center pod will be removable and house the receiver battery and air system control. I was going to put the fill valve inside as well, but then decided to just mount it externally, for now, for easy access. The battery will be padded when permanently installed.

BTW, I made patterns for all these parts as well.
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Main gear door closers are finally done. They work great and are about as simple and trouble free as it gets. I went with cables, pulled by the struts as they retract. Trick was to get them in the correct location so the tire clears the doors as they go by and still closes them completely. This was a tedious operation of trial and error on the first one. All the rest are identical.

Don't need the weight or complexity of more air cylinders to deal with. This baby has enough going on as you can see.

Last two gear pictures are as the strut starts to pull them closed and then closed and fully locked.

I also changed out the spring opener with a smaller gauge wire to take some resistance off the closing process. They still pop open fine as the cables are released.
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Nicely done Gary!!!!! Sometimes simple is easiest or hardest. LOL.
I figure as long as it gets the job done, that's good enough for me.
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