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Old 12-23-2008, 08:23 PM
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I am trying to find plans for a 1/4 scale nitro C-130. If anyone knows were I can find a set of plans please let me know. I am also interested in plans for a 1/4 scale nitro DC-3. I appreciate any help, thanks.
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:28 PM
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No Idea on the plans ,but a 1/4 scale DC-3 would be about 288 " wingspan WOW !!!!!!
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Old 12-23-2008, 09:56 PM
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Not going to be small or a quick project but I have time and space. I am planning on making the C-130 as a Coast Guard one. If any one has info on were I could get 1/4 scale plans I would appreciate it. If I can't find 1/4 scale 1/5 scale will do. Thanks
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SouthernACE , The Ziroli DC-3 is the benchmark most are measured by . Call Nick and see if he can blow up his plans from 1/8 to 1/4 scale .
I have also had good dealings with Alex Guzman he may be able to help you out also . I know he has the ability to change and modify plans and laser cuts also . He does very nice work.
http://a-mmodels.com/
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CK1, Thanks for the info. I am going to give them a call as soon as the holidays are over. Merry Christmas!
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A 1/4 scale C-130 would be massive. I hope you live at the airport or drive a semi-truck. My 1/12th scale AC-130 project is big, so I can't imagine the fun a 1/4 build would be.

You may be able to buy the Palmer plans then have someone enlarge them. If you go this route, beware the plans need a good overhaul when it comes the the wing ribs. There are many errors.

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You might give Jaime at Arizona Models a call. For one he enlarged a set of plans for me for a 1/6 scale C47, however he sent me pics when he did that of a 1/4 or 1/5 scale C47/DC3 he was working on at that time.
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A 1/4 scale C-130 would have a 33 FOOT WING SPAN!!! A full-size Cessna 310 is only two feet more. I can't even imagine what engines you could use. Are you sure about this? Russ Farris
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I was going to say... a 1/4 scale c-130 would be bigger than most single engine civil aviation aircraft.[X(] So the answer would be no, nobody makes plans for that.
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Too much Eggnog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://www.carlb-rcplanes.com/

Check out Carl Bachuber's Giant Scale Multis above! Russ Farris
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I don't think you'd get a waiver to fly it from the AMA or FAA. It would be static display only.
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This brings up an interesting point.

If someone can tell me exactly what FAA regulation dictates how big a model airplane I can fly, I would be very interested. I mean something specific, not just "that's just what I heard somewhere." I don't believe there is a regulation about this, at least in the U.S.

As far as the AMA is concerned, if I build a 33 foot 1/4 scale 200 pound plus C-130 and fly it at my 200 acre farm in the middle of central Kansas, they have zero input into that operation. This is just a hypothetical excercise, guys - just trying to understand what the legal ramifications of a super giant-sized model are. Russ Farris
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I will look it up but at some point it is no longer a model airplane but an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). I work at XXXX AFB where we fly UAVs daily. These range in size from a Drone that would fit in the bed of a pickup, to a fullsize F-4 fighter. They require restricted airspace and are flown out over the Gulf of Mexico. If they lose the radio signal they are blown up before it can become a danger to the public. Several have been blown up over the years.

Your scenario of flying in the middle of nowhere is legal if you remain below 1200' AGL. Above that altitude is considered "airspace" and the FAA owns all airspace above the US. Therefore federal regulations will apply...but you would really be unnoticed by Air Traffic Control unless a pilot saw you and reported you (not likely). I'm a controller and anything smaller than a Cessna is hard to see on radar...oh and wood does not show up at all! AMA is an insurance provider...the most they can do is not cover a claim if you ran it into your barn.

I'll get back to you on the regs.
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33' and only 200 lbs. Wouldn't need power. It would make a great glider.

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33' and only 200 lbs. Wouldn't need power. It would make a great glider.

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All I have to say about it is if you do build it, be sure to post lots of pictures!! I want to see that!
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Hey UkerDuker,

I'll bet this guy could use electrics for plane, what do you think?
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Electric would be perfect.
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I will look it up but at some point it is no longer a model airplane but an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). I work at XXXX AFB where we fly UAVs daily. These range in size from a Drone that would fit in the bed of a pickup, to a fullsize F-4 fighter. They require restricted airspace and are flown out over the Gulf of Mexico. If they lose the radio signal they are blown up before it can become a danger to the public. Several have been blown up over the years.

Your scenario of flying in the middle of nowhere is legal if you remain below 1200' AGL. Above that altitude is considered "airspace" and the FAA owns all airspace above the US. Therefore federal regulations will apply...but you would really be unnoticed by Air Traffic Control unless a pilot saw you and reported you (not likely). I'm a controller and anything smaller than a Cessna is hard to see on radar...oh and wood does not show up at all! AMA is an insurance provider...the most they can do is not cover a claim if you ran it into your barn.

I'll get back to you on the regs.
Yak18, it's not too hard to figure out what Air Force Base you work out of from your location but I promise to keep it a secret!

From extensive online research, the only FAA document I can find concerning recreational model aircraft is linked below, Advisory Circular 91-57. Back in 1971, a Delta Airlines Convair 880 passed a red and white model airplane at 2,000 feet on approach to JFK, which caused quite a stir at the time I remember.
Eventually the FAA posted guidelines in AC 91-57 - below 400 feet max altitude, notify an airport if operated within three miles, ect.

Nowhere does it mention size. Now, a commercially operated UAV comes under FAA regs. Some companies got into trouble trying to operate their UAVs under the recreational model aircraft guidelines, which the FAA got them for.

The way I interpet this, a recreational model aircraft has no restrictions as to size or weight as far as the FAA is concerned. Russ Farris

http://rgl.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGADVISORYCIRCULAR.NSF/0/1acfc3f689769a56862569e70077c9cc/$FILE/ATTBJMAC/ac91-
57.pdf

Link to FAA crackdown on commercial UAV using model aircraft FAA guidelines

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...-for-uavs.html
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Thanks for looking it up for me. The name of the base is really not a secret but I didn't want my post showing up on any google searches.
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