P-38 90" Nitromodels, Changes/Enhancements
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Here is a link for the torque drive control units. I had to go through a build thread of a Wingspan B-17 by Timothy Thomson. Very sad. I had remembered seeing him post about them.
http://www.irfmachineworks.com/rds/
http://www.irfmachineworks.com/rds/
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RE: P-38 90
I was hoping that using the pitts type muffler would help. And thank you for that link.
A few months ago I didn't know they existed.
A few months ago I didn't know they existed.
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RE: P-38 90
Lack of confedence. I really don't have the experience with running engines inverted succesfuly. It may be with time I will, but for now I'd rather
run them on their side. I know you're doing well with yours. And four strokes toboot.[sm=thumbs_up.gif].
I have many other projects that will have an inverted engine.
run them on their side. I know you're doing well with yours. And four strokes toboot.[sm=thumbs_up.gif].
I have many other projects that will have an inverted engine.
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Lack of confedence. I really don't have the experience with running engines inverted succesfuly. It may be with time I will, but for now I'd rather
run them on their side. I know your doing well with yours. And four strokes toboot.[sm=thumbs_up.gif].
I have many other projects that will have an inverted engine.
Lack of confedence. I really don't have the experience with running engines inverted succesfuly. It may be with time I will, but for now I'd rather
run them on their side. I know your doing well with yours. And four strokes toboot.[sm=thumbs_up.gif].
I have many other projects that will have an inverted engine.
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Have you had trouble with other engines inverted?
Have you had trouble with other engines inverted?
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RE: P-38 90
Sounds like I need to put some more effort into making them reliable.
I'll make up a mount to run one this winter.
As I stare at the canopy to figure out where the ladder release handle should be,[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
I start to see where the lines are off. To bad the window lines are molded in.
At least I can #10 add some paint to the turtle deck for a more scale look.
I'll make up a mount to run one this winter.
As I stare at the canopy to figure out where the ladder release handle should be,[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
I start to see where the lines are off. To bad the window lines are molded in.
At least I can #10 add some paint to the turtle deck for a more scale look.
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RE: P-38 90
Yep those are the direct drives I've seen. Call me hard headed, but I built my own on the P-40.
As for the hidden tail controls, well hard to take shots of them once they're in there. LOL I'll see if I can find some shots for you.
I'll try and explain them. Same technique, just modify it for each plane. On a split type elevator, I use the joiner wire and silver solder a metal tab to use as the tiller. Install either a control rod (if I'm going rod and tube or just go with a CF tube) and route it in thru an added hole in the fuselage , slip the stabilizer and elevator in place and attach it. Then just make the hook up at the servo. Servo end of the rod has the clevis for adjusting the elevator.
For the rudder, similar set up. I either split the covering at the LE of the rudder, notch it or I drill up through the LE from bottom to top. Either way, after that I install a small hardwood dowel into the notch/hole, epoxy it in place, leaving it long on the bottom. The dowel is then cut to length dependent on where I need it to exit inside the fuselage.
Whether above or below the horizontal stab. Again like the elevator, I install a tiller on the end of the dowel, hook up the control rod and slip it in the fuselage, often thru the horizontal stabilizer.
Oh and before you ask, the rod on the rudder gets slotted or drilled for hinges . So far I've done it to a pair of Hangar 9 P-40's, a NitroPlane 120 scale Corsair, and a Donut Models 90 scale Gee Bee R3's tail feathers all like this and not had one problem.
The Lightning will be a little harder due to the tail feather design, but I think it can be done. Going to be a little tight on the tail controls but I do think can sneak em in there.
As for the hidden tail controls, well hard to take shots of them once they're in there. LOL I'll see if I can find some shots for you.
I'll try and explain them. Same technique, just modify it for each plane. On a split type elevator, I use the joiner wire and silver solder a metal tab to use as the tiller. Install either a control rod (if I'm going rod and tube or just go with a CF tube) and route it in thru an added hole in the fuselage , slip the stabilizer and elevator in place and attach it. Then just make the hook up at the servo. Servo end of the rod has the clevis for adjusting the elevator.
For the rudder, similar set up. I either split the covering at the LE of the rudder, notch it or I drill up through the LE from bottom to top. Either way, after that I install a small hardwood dowel into the notch/hole, epoxy it in place, leaving it long on the bottom. The dowel is then cut to length dependent on where I need it to exit inside the fuselage.
Whether above or below the horizontal stab. Again like the elevator, I install a tiller on the end of the dowel, hook up the control rod and slip it in the fuselage, often thru the horizontal stabilizer.
Oh and before you ask, the rod on the rudder gets slotted or drilled for hinges . So far I've done it to a pair of Hangar 9 P-40's, a NitroPlane 120 scale Corsair, and a Donut Models 90 scale Gee Bee R3's tail feathers all like this and not had one problem.
The Lightning will be a little harder due to the tail feather design, but I think it can be done. Going to be a little tight on the tail controls but I do think can sneak em in there.
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RE: P-38 90
The progress on the ladder is slow. I still have not soldered the parts together yet.
Hind sight, [sm=confused_smile.gif] It would have been so much easier to cut the ladder from some good plywood.
Hind sight, [sm=confused_smile.gif] It would have been so much easier to cut the ladder from some good plywood.
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RE: P-38 90
Oh I don't know, I'm liking the brass version.
So far no joy on the pics of the internals. Worse comes to worse, I can draw it up for you.
Back to the ladder, you were going to use it to act as a release for the nose hatch right? Just looking at the pivot point, how were you planning on making it work a release?
So far no joy on the pics of the internals. Worse comes to worse, I can draw it up for you.
Back to the ladder, you were going to use it to act as a release for the nose hatch right? Just looking at the pivot point, how were you planning on making it work a release?
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RE: P-38 90
Well, the soldering went a lot better that I expected.
My experiments with cardboard showed there has to be a third pivote piont.
I'm incorporating a internal slide on the handle for a lock to hold the ladder open.
The access door on the pod will be held closed with a magnet. I think I can incorporate a push rod to open the door.
Here are the latest photos.
My experiments with cardboard showed there has to be a third pivote piont.
I'm incorporating a internal slide on the handle for a lock to hold the ladder open.
The access door on the pod will be held closed with a magnet. I think I can incorporate a push rod to open the door.
Here are the latest photos.
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RE: P-38 90
The handle is 80% done. My next step will be to mount and cut the wing to accomodate the ladder.
Then I'll need to make a brace for the handle to pivote in. The pod will have the ladder/brace/handle as one unit.
It is amazing how many times I have measured and filed and tried a piece, to only have filed one time too many.
Then there are two little brass H parts that my dremel didn't like, and threw some where in my kitchen.
Is there a proper amount of time to search for a part before you make a new one. How long should you look?
And is mourning ok for a lost part?
Then I'll need to make a brace for the handle to pivote in. The pod will have the ladder/brace/handle as one unit.
It is amazing how many times I have measured and filed and tried a piece, to only have filed one time too many.
Then there are two little brass H parts that my dremel didn't like, and threw some where in my kitchen.
Is there a proper amount of time to search for a part before you make a new one. How long should you look?
And is mourning ok for a lost part?
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RE: P-38 90
I have to give credit to Rory, at our local hobby shop for recommending this solder pack.
It was three years ago for a landing gear upgrade that still has not been started.
I dripped the acid onto an acid brush and then applyed it to the parts.
I also used a butane pencil torch. I used a least favorite kitchen plate to solder on.
One spot was being stubborn. A small ball of solder sat at the heated joint. I removed the flame
and dripped a drop of the acid onto the joint and it sizzled from the residual heat and the solder
flowed and wicked into place. The metal must have been pretty hot.
After I notch the wing, I will have to trim and position the canopy. I haven't decided on screw placement or type.
Then the positioning of the ladder handle. And measuring, making of the bracing, plus linkage. More to come.[sm=bananahead.gif]
It was three years ago for a landing gear upgrade that still has not been started.
I dripped the acid onto an acid brush and then applyed it to the parts.
I also used a butane pencil torch. I used a least favorite kitchen plate to solder on.
One spot was being stubborn. A small ball of solder sat at the heated joint. I removed the flame
and dripped a drop of the acid onto the joint and it sizzled from the residual heat and the solder
flowed and wicked into place. The metal must have been pretty hot.
After I notch the wing, I will have to trim and position the canopy. I haven't decided on screw placement or type.
Then the positioning of the ladder handle. And measuring, making of the bracing, plus linkage. More to come.[sm=bananahead.gif]
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Sounds like I need to put some more effort into making them reliable.
I'll make up a mount to run one this winter.
As I stare at the canopy to figure out where the ladder release handle should be,[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
I start to see where the lines are off. To bad the window lines are molded in.
At least I can #10 add some paint to the turtle deck for a more scale look.
Sounds like I need to put some more effort into making them reliable.
I'll make up a mount to run one this winter.
As I stare at the canopy to figure out where the ladder release handle should be,[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
I start to see where the lines are off. To bad the window lines are molded in.
At least I can #10 add some paint to the turtle deck for a more scale look.
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RE: P-38 90
Thank you Hun Hunter, I'll probably be asking you for assistance with adding some of the details that Ram3500 is referring to.
Like window lines, panel lines, painted rivet and bolts, weathering. Ram3500 also added the window bracing and upgraded windsheild lines.
Adding the pilot helps a lot in this area too. I plan to search the forums to see how others have painted/tricks for this rubbery guy.
Like window lines, panel lines, painted rivet and bolts, weathering. Ram3500 also added the window bracing and upgraded windsheild lines.
Adding the pilot helps a lot in this area too. I plan to search the forums to see how others have painted/tricks for this rubbery guy.
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RE: P-38 90
Murry it's Murphys law at work. When you drop a small part on the floor, the time to find it will always be related to the cost or amount of work involved in building it.
And as soon as you get another one, the first will show up in a spot where you go to yourself "How the heck did I miss that?"
Here's a little tip I finally came up with after way too many searches for that tiny part I manage to drop. Instead of looking at the spot I think the part fell to, I just open my eyes wide and watch for movement in my field of vison. Way too many time where I thought a part was going to go when it hit the floor turned out to be no where near where it ended up. Keeping my eyes not focused on a spot catches the movement a lot faster. 99.9 times out of 100, peripheral vison catches a movement that staring at a spot misses.
Anyhow, yeah StayBrite is the cat's meow for silver soldering. Makes a really strong bond. I use it for making up landing gear on smaller stuff. If it can stand up to that, it will just about hold anything. Wrap a bunch of turns of wire around the wire joint, hit it with solder and it's darn strong.
And just to keep mama happy, I've fixed some jewelry with it too. Gotta work in those brownie points when ever you can.
And as soon as you get another one, the first will show up in a spot where you go to yourself "How the heck did I miss that?"
Here's a little tip I finally came up with after way too many searches for that tiny part I manage to drop. Instead of looking at the spot I think the part fell to, I just open my eyes wide and watch for movement in my field of vison. Way too many time where I thought a part was going to go when it hit the floor turned out to be no where near where it ended up. Keeping my eyes not focused on a spot catches the movement a lot faster. 99.9 times out of 100, peripheral vison catches a movement that staring at a spot misses.
Anyhow, yeah StayBrite is the cat's meow for silver soldering. Makes a really strong bond. I use it for making up landing gear on smaller stuff. If it can stand up to that, it will just about hold anything. Wrap a bunch of turns of wire around the wire joint, hit it with solder and it's darn strong.
And just to keep mama happy, I've fixed some jewelry with it too. Gotta work in those brownie points when ever you can.
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Ram, wish I could take the credit for the 38 but they are pics I took of the net[X(][X(] I just like artwork/painted stuff, when I'm building a scale project I get more info at looking at a scale plastic model then anything else, these guys have already done the homework, makes it much easier to complete, just scale the paint job up.