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Old 02-07-2006, 11:21 PM
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Default DA50 or G62

I am making my dive into the GAS world and am very excited. I have been emailing Tom and he has been very kind in responding to my emails very quickly. But I know he is probbaly tired of hearing from me and would like to know your honest opinion I don't know if I should buy a DA 50 or a G62 for the Extra I am ordering from Tom. If I go with the G62 I can get like 52% of the retail, so that makes the G62 look allot more tempting, but on the other hand the DA-50 is the supreme being when it comes to motors...... you can see my proplem. Any help would be much appricated.


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Old 02-07-2006, 11:32 PM
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What type of flying do you plan on doing?
Old 02-07-2006, 11:35 PM
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Both 3D and precision aero
Old 02-08-2006, 12:11 AM
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

Here's an option, since you can get the G62 for 52% of retail, buy it and send it to Ralph at RCIgnitions and have him convert it. It's around $100-150 to have him do it. Plus I know some people like the converted G62 for 3D better than the DA 50.
Old 02-08-2006, 12:19 AM
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

Never mind the fact that the DA is unavailable right now, Another excellent engine choice is either the Taurus or the Brison 3.2.
Old 02-08-2006, 12:38 AM
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

There will also be a new 55 from BME in a month or so, might be worth a look too.

I have one of Ralph's converted and lightened 62's, they are nice. Now for personal opinion, if you prop the 62 right (wind it up) it will produce more power than a 50 and be about the same weight as the 50 on a can.
Old 02-08-2006, 08:15 AM
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Im about to take my first steps into the Gas world also in the next few months, With a 28% Edge im planning on waiting for the new Bme 55 to be released, it sounds like it will be a very powerfull motor with low weight.
Old 02-08-2006, 11:24 AM
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All of the above are great choices. I guess it's a lot like being the only judge at a beauty contest.
Old 02-08-2006, 01:53 PM
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I appricate everyone's input. I really think I am going to go with the G62 and look into RCI Ignitions. Again thank you to everyone.
Old 02-08-2006, 02:28 PM
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I have the 28% Extra Special with a stock. mag ignition G62. It flies great and has plenty of power. Hover pullout is solid. I would, however, like to get the ignition converted to save a bit of weight.
Old 02-08-2006, 05:46 PM
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

Buy the G62 at that price and sell it NIB for $399 + free shipping and then you buy the Da50 so will only cost you arround the same as the G62
Old 02-08-2006, 05:54 PM
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ORIGINAL: charrua

Buy the G62 at that price and sell it NIB for $399 + free shipping and then you buy the Da50 so will only cost you arround the same as the G62
Sneeky Boy!
Old 02-08-2006, 06:48 PM
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

I've thought about doing stuff like that myself. Technically, you're just the middle man.
Old 02-08-2006, 10:02 PM
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Right!!!! go for it!!!!! everybody is making money out of Rc staff they sell why not you???? well you wouldn't really make any money out of it but will get a much better engine if you went for the DA,, if you ever want to sell it it's a DA!!!!
Old 02-08-2006, 10:17 PM
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Thanks again to everyone for their input. Aero Dave the Extra is the one I am purchasing. You say it pulls out of hover with no problem? I don't want to sound dumb but what does converting it do? and what benefits does it have besides weight savings?
Old 02-08-2006, 10:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: DbCoronaFlyer
I don't want to sound dumb but what does converting it do? and what benefits does it have besides weight savings?
No such thing as a dumb question here. Converting saves you weight, makes starting easier and idles a little smoother, that's about it.
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ORIGINAL: charrua

if you ever want to sell it it's a DA!!!!

Bottom Line right there boys.

Go DA
Old 02-08-2006, 11:42 PM
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

Those that have never used the G-62 just don't quite understand.

It's just amazing how well that tired, weak, old, and decrepit G-62 is out there flying 25-35 pound warbirds around everyday, and everyday, and everyday for the last 15 years without missing a beat or ever needing service. They're just terrible engines, yeah.

I've flown with quite a few different engines in the 50cc class and the 62 has beaten them all in thrust. BTW, that was with a stock, magneto version of the 62 Also went hed to head with one using two Wild Hare 28% Extras. Mine had a 3.2 Brison. I had already smoked a DA50 version of the same plane. The 62 won in vertical over all of us, hands down. The Brison beat all of them in mid range performance and smoothness.

There really is more to the engine market than DA guys. Nothing against DA, but it's been blown way out of proportion.

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Default RE: DA50 or G62

From what I can tell in this forum is that the G62 is the way to go, even if I don't convert it. Im only 26 but I know the saying if its not broken don't fix it or how about this the G62 was designed with the ignition it has for a reason. So I will stick with the stock G62 with out any modification, and if it doesn't work out I can either but another brand of motor or have it converted. Again I really cannot believe the fast response to my questions its really nice to have some help when all you know if the Glow end of things.
Old 02-09-2006, 12:55 AM
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

I have to say that the converted and lightened and converted 62 actually is a better mouse trap. It's worth the extra spent. The stock 62 is a good value, don't get me wrong, but the RCIGN version is lighter and easier to start, with an improved mid range due to the ignition change. BTW, the ignition carries a lifetime warranty.
Old 02-09-2006, 12:37 PM
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And... the converted G62 looks nice And no extra ignition box to deal with as the ignition is mounted in the back of the engine mount. You can see the sensor wire coming out of the mount on the back of the engine. Very clean setup. The prop hub has been redesigned and looks cleanrer yet. Maybe Ralph has picture of that change he can post. I have three of these G62's and three G26's.
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Old 02-09-2006, 01:08 PM
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

Keep in mind also that the G62, while a great performer in stock form, and an even better perfomer with an ignition conversion, has a TON of untapped potential waiting to be unlocked.

A little good porting, and WOW!
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Default RE: DA50 or G62

But by making modifications to the porting and ignition wouldn't that make it more likely that things will go wrong? Just like with cars when you start modifying them more things seem to go wrong.....
Old 02-09-2006, 06:25 PM
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Actually, a good porter can make a significant performance increase without sacrificing reliability. The reason is these engines in stock form are massively detuned for industrial use and reliability. EXTREMELY agressive modifications, of course, will lead to reduced engine life.
However, the Zenoah angle-plug family of engines, like the G62, are shockingly reliable and even when heavily modified last for many, many years.
Old 02-09-2006, 07:56 PM
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I "borrowed" this from Ralph Cunningham of RCIGN in the Gas Engine forum. The stuff I put in italics has a negative impact on engine performance and rpm numbers.

Prop test...G62...Altitude 6800 feet...Temp 55 degrees...Fuel 32-1 oil, 87 octane gas..TNC tach..No muffler..My ignition, timimg at 28 degrees BTDC..Tried more, no difference...
22-10 Top flite 6900
24-10 Zinger 6000
24-8 PK 6000
22-6-10 Zinger 7200
22-10 Zinger 6700
22-10 MSC 6300
22-8 Menz S 7300
23-10 MSC 6000
22-10 DynaThrust 7500
Readings when I lived in Phoenix at about 900 feet altitude were about 400 rpm more on the Zinger 22-10.
I have seen slightly higher and lower readings from different engines...


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