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Old 03-25-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default 100 cc Extra first flight


We finally got the 100cc Extra in the air, and it flies exactly the same as the 41% Extra. No surprise really. It's weird, once the plane is in the air you really can't tell that you are flying a smaller plane, they look identical.

OK here's the details.

DA-100
KS 86-4 rear exhaust canisters
5955s two per wing one per elevator
JR 8711 one on rudder
Spektrum DX7 radio
Wild Hare hardware kit exactly what I sell with the plane
2x 2400 LiIon packs on Rx with MPI regulators
1x 2100mah Nimh pack on receiver
27-10 Bunny prop
Dave Brown 4 1/2" spinner


Specs;

Wing span 105"
Area 1935 sq. inches
Length 100" including spinner
Weight 28 lbs exactly

The plane flies like it's on rails. Nothing failed and only very minor changes will be made going to production. DA-100 fits with lots of room to spare.

One of my major thought was how easy the plane is to assemble. No hnging is required. The motor box is centered in the cowl opening so mounting the engine is super simple, I'll be supplying templates for DA-100, 3w 106, etc. as needed. Everything else pretty much just drops in.

The interior is cavernous, plenty of room for anything you might want to install.

That's it for now, more flying today to do some trimming. Photos later.

TF
Old 03-25-2007, 09:06 AM
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Sounds like everything went well Tom , can't wait to see the pics.
Old 03-25-2007, 09:33 AM
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Here are the photos from the first day.

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Old 03-25-2007, 10:35 AM
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

Tom,
How does this one fly compared to the Sukhoi? Also, if you need someone to fly a prototype, I have a BME 115 that would go nicely with it
Old 03-25-2007, 11:23 AM
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Tom: Sounds great, do you have pricing yet? Have you decided on a final covering scheme, and lastly when will it be available? This is going to make it difficult to decide between this airplane and your new Giles202. I would guess that they will bothe be equally good flying airplanes, so for me the decision will be based upon the covering scheme.
Old 03-25-2007, 11:50 AM
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sounds oh to sweet
Old 03-25-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

I'll answer several questions.

An Extra, any Extra is cleaner aerodynamically so it does not slow down as quickly. Other than that there are a lot of similarities. Being bigger I think the Extra may be a bit smoother, but my memories of the Sukhoi are a year old, whichever plane I flew last seems to be the best ever, so maybe listen to some others on this.

This plane does the most beautiful elevator I have ever seen. Point it into the wind, set the elevators at the right angle and enough throttle to just overcome the wind and it will descend vertically with no wing rock, no fighting, it just sits still in the air and looks like it could be in an elevator shaft, it comes down so straight and level. If you do it right you could land it in a small backyard (not that I think this is a good idea). Set up the elevtor, let it drop down to a few feet altitude and add some throttle to soften the landing. The entire 3d envelope is TOC caliber, you could fly this plane anywhere.

The likely price is $895. Probable availability is 3 months which would put it 1 July approx.

Since this is a fully shaken down design now I will be getting a pretty large shipment. It will be ahead of the Giles because that plane requires re-testing with a longer fuselage, this one is ready to go now.

Covering scheme is undecided but the one that's on it is spectacular in the air, absolutely no way to mistake which side is up or what direction it's going, andit shows up vividly against a blue sky and a gray sky.

Oh, mixing. We found that it requires less than 5% up elevator mixed with rudder, and about 5% opposite aileron to make it 1 hand knife-edge from horizon to horizon.

It balances fine with a DA-100 with canisters, it has two wing tube locations so you guys with a BME 115 or a strong lightweight single will be able to install your engine without worrying if you will need a bunch of lead in front, it won't.

TTFN

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Tom that is so kewl to have the two wings tube locations i saw that in a picutre and said that looks like a wing tube[8D]
Old 04-02-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

Make sure you offer the White, Yellow, Black version, at our 40th RC club Fun Fly your 41% 300 Extra won best looking sports plane, Well its really mine. The yellow is now my favorite.
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:01 AM
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i have been flying the QQ 102 yaks for a while( 2 of them) and have loved them both. this may need to be my 100cc replacement so i can compare. keep us posted on when they are coming in.

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Old 04-07-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

Will the wings be foam cored balsa sheeted and will the cowl be 2 piece? I really would like these features.
Old 04-07-2007, 09:24 PM
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sheeted foam wings yes, 2 piece cowl no.
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

tom let me know when they come in. i need one to go with my 41% extra and i have everything to go in it waiting here. i can be your test pilot. i don't know how you could resist a offer like that. LOL!

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Well at least the wings are sheeted. I can live with a 1 piece cowl.
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

How many single color ones will be in that shipment?
THe plane looks good.
Any pictures of the inside?
Old 04-09-2007, 09:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: Geistware

How many single color ones will be in that shipment?
None unless someone orders one. I have given up pre-ordering solid colors, they always seem like a good idea but the planes end up sitting here for a year.

Any pictures of the inside?
It is identical inside to the 41% Extra.
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color scheme desire-- replace the yellow with white and posibly remove the sun burst rays on the top of the wings and stabs
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

Thanks Tom.
I was hoping that you would offer another 100cc plane to replace the old extra.
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

Hey Tom,

Any possibility of getting this or your 41% Extra as an ARC? I know you're not keen on the solid color planes, but if a customer would pay for it up front and not back out?
Old 04-13-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

the new planes is going to be another hit, im just not a fan of the sun/starburst theme on it. A bit too angular but what do I know, all my planes are old [sm=stupid.gif]
Old 04-13-2007, 10:43 AM
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i think tom is working on new scheme... im not sure just a thing i heard... i realy thing more curves would be a good things...
Old 04-16-2007, 05:04 PM
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I'm willing to order ARC, but you must pay in advance and wait forever (it seems like forever) to get it. So far nobody has stepped up.

TF
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I might just! Gotta finish building the plane I'm working on now though lol.
Old 04-16-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default RE: 100 cc Extra first flight

Tom, what is the inside cowl measurements? Will a MVVS/Evolution 116 fit inside completely??
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Color scheme was decide already...??? any update at this time

when it should be available


thank

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