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I like it.... that MLD 28 is quite a nice little but kicking engine. You can't beat that performance for the price, and CERMARK have very good service and parts supply. Keep the videos coming.

Wingman26

Nice video Jimeni!

Jimeni

Thank you for the kind words. I know the video is a little boring, but still being easy on the engine. A little tip, if you get the MLD 28, also get the pitts muffler. The side muffler is a little loud. The pitts is alot quieter, but I did lose 90 RPM with it, but I think it was a great trade off, and it sounds great. The engine is just impressive, right out of the box.

juanjulian

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Jimeny:

Will apreciate if you can inform the total weight of your engine with ignition.

After making a research discovered this engine but no coments of it until your thread.

Thanks

Juan Vadillo

Jimeni

With ignition, muffler, and stand-offs it is 34 to 35 oz.

Here is the thread for the engine. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_76..._1/key_/tm.htm

cap10b

All,
Tom had me install a new DLE-30 on the Baby Edge we have as a test bed. First flights were awesome, spinning a 19x8 Evo prop (Tom has 19x8 Bunnies on the way) turning 7200 static. Choked the motor, flipped a few times and Shazam she was running. No breakin, no nothing just petal to the metal and fly. Great vertical, great downlines, hovers at 1/4 throttle, idles rock solid, landing no problems. Hot restarts are no problem just crack the throttle a little, no choke and flip.

Also others over on a different DLE-30 thread all say the stock spark plug is worthless, I disagree, we have run the stock Chinese plugs on DLE-55, 3MM-TOC 53, DLE-30 and no problems. I don't know whats going on there but so far so good. Now I did run 32:1 Penzoil Aircooled oil and premium gas just as a matter of routine (I run this in all new engines for the first few gallons then switch to synthetic) I will switch to 40:1 Redline synthetic pretty soon and see what the numbers do.

Pretty dang good little engine.

JDS

rctom

All that cowl cutting is leftover from having installed 3 other engines plus and electric motor. This plane has seen some abuse.

I'm having one of the new 73" Extra 260s sent over to do the new manual, will use the DLE-30 on it also. Finally we have a decent engine in this size.

TF

Jimeni

Try a Vess 18x8 or 20A. You will love them. Vess props are way ahead of everyone else, as far as wood props go. GREAT prices too! Zero cavitation in a hover, and faster spool up than the others. I will use nothing else, and I've tried them all.

http://www.vesspropellers.com/servle...opeller/Detail

http://www.vesspropellers.com/servle...opeller/Detail

Also, the MLD 28cc from Cermark will pull this plane great, yes for 3D. MLD is head and shoulders above SPE, and very reliable. I've been running one for as year now, and not a bit of trouble. It runs great. Cheaper, and lighter, also Cermarks is a USA version, much better than chinese version. Don't know how performance specs (real world, not advertised) compare, but I would bet they are very close. Hovers and 11.5 lb extra at half throttle with good pullout.

See the MLD 28 in action here: http://www.vimeo.com/6582384 This is actual HD (720) video, not like youtubes claimed HD. So hit play then pause to let it buffer a minute so you don't get pauses. The lower your connection speed, the more you will need to let it buffer. Dont forget to hit full screen.

Just my 2 cents. Hope it helps. I'm planning to try this plane with the 28 soon. I've had it on an Aeroworks Yak 54, and now the Fliton, has not dissapointed me once.

ro347

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Is the Baby Edge or Extra a good performer with 3D?

rctom

Yes, either one of them is as good as anything made and as good as the pilot. They are exceptionally light so they will 3D with less power than many planes in this size.

TF

ro347

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Thanks Tom. Great job on the new schemes. Would like to see pics of the bottoms if we can.

rctom

I just finished building a new baby 260 with a DLE-30. This is one of the production planes, not a prototype.

Here are a few photos.

The plane came in at 9 lbs. 15 oz. (under 10 lbs.) using a 2300mah A123 battery pack, I could save 3 ounces using a smaller pack but what's the point.

FYI on this one I used all the standard hardware that came with the plane except the axles which were a little short and made the wheels interfere with the wheel pants. The kit comes with control horns, pushrods, pull-pull kit, clevises, all the control linkages and it all works. The only thing I did was I glued a piece of CF tube over the elevator pushrods shafts to stiffen them up a bit since they are kind of long for their size.

I also used some very low performance servos, HD 4180 digitals. They are only 55 oz. in. torque, we'll see how they work. I did use a HD 9150 on the rudder.

I added teh fuel system, dubro wheels/wheel collars and axles and the fuel system which do not come with the plane, we'll have this stuff in a kit for the "anti-do-it-your-selfers".

I was thrilled with how it came out and with the weight. With the DLE-30 this is just a sweet combination.

TF

Cap232tain

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Any idea when the new version of the baby 260 and 540, that is on the web page, will be in stock?

Jimeni

YEAH YEAH, when are they do in? Looks great, gotta have one.

Jimeni

My Fliton Extra came in at 11.5 lbs with the MLD 28. Sounds like this one could be almost 1 to 1.5 lbs lighter. The 28 is very nice in the Fliton, should be phenominal in this one

Cap232tain

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The smallest engine I have laying around is a CRRC 40. 2.8lbs. Should make the baby Edge a rocket! At least!

ro347

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I was told November...

Looks really great! Nice that it came in at under 10lbs after true build. Sweet!!!


I was going to wait for a 1.20 AW Edge to be released...but I think it might have just gotten bumped down the list! Great Job!

Cap232tain

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Do you know if it's a new color scheme or airframe mod?

rctom

They are due to load into a container any day, so figure a month from now.

TF

Han2007

Hello Everyone, I'm just hoping that this thread is not dead yet. I have one of the original Baby Extra 260s and I think that maybe I don't have it set up just right. I am a total newbe to 3D flying so that might be the problem, but I also have a V2 28% Extra 300 that seems to fly just great. I really like (no love) the size of the Baby Extra but I just can't seem to get it to fly as nice as it's bigger brother.

My Baby Extra is set up with the O.S. 1.20 AX max 2 stroke which doesn't seem to be lacking power (has unlimited verticle climb). Did my best to keep it light weight, and pretty sure that it's on the recommended CG with the recommended surface control throws. In level flight she flies straight as an arrow, just about floats in for landings. In these respects it flies great.

However for example when I go to do a simple loop it does a snap role out of the loop when it gets to the top of the loop (no rudder input). Hovers, flat spins, and knife edges are hard to control. These manuevers almost seem childs play when performed on my Extra 300.

Is there perhaps something obvious that I am missing? CG? Control throws? Weight?

rctom

My first guess would be too much elevator throw, try backing off on low rates.

FYI any aerobatic plane will snap out of a loop with too much throw, it's a matter of determining how much is too much.

TF

Wingman26

When you talk about snapping out of the loop, are you talking about a big open loop, or trying to see how tight of a loop it will do?

I'm no expert by any means, but to me that sounds like a cg problem, I would be moving some things around to shift the cg forward, or you might add some weight to the nose.

Han2007

I sincerely appreciate the advice. I happen to remember someone last summer making a comment about too much elevator throw on my Extra so I'll start there.

Thanks, Tom

Han2007

I too have been wondering if perhaps the CG is off one way or another. When I perform a loop I'm shooting for just a nice graceful, straight, open level loop. Not necessarily something supper tight. But regardless of whatever kind of loop it snaps out of it.

I sincerely appreciate the advice. If the elevator corrections don't work I'll be trying to move the CG forward and see what happens.

I do think Tom is probably right, I also just went and watched a video that my daughter filmed for me last summer and I'm really wondering if I have too much throw in both the elevator and the rudder. I am open to trying anything right at this point.

I'll let you guys know what happens.