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msinno 10-15-2006 06:11 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Inverted,

I have been commenting back and forth with you on another forum - same subject. This thread is AWESOME - a total MUST-READ for newbies to 1/18 scale. My only suggestion would be to add a link to page 1 to your signature. Very informative and useful - you must've either read my mind on the info I was looking for or you have seen tooooo many questions get reasked. Once again - Great JOB.

:D[8D];):):eek:

msinno

ORIGINAL: -Inverted-

The mini inferno comes RTR, however the stock electronics aren't that great. You can make them really fast, but it depends on how much space you have. For the mini inferno you will want aluminum shocks and a ball bearing kit right out of the box as the performance is pretty unimpressive without it. You will also want an improved battery. I highly suggest you take a look at the Duratrax Vendetta, it comes with a decent amount of hop-ups out of the box, and has the one year warranty. It's a great performer and upgrades are cheap. Once again it all depends on where you run it, there are super fast brushless systems, but that might be too much for a basement. Let me know which car you decide on then I can help you, although I do reccomend a browse at the Vendetta. Team Associated also makes a nice buggy, the RC18B. I appreciate the thread comments, although it needs an update I keep neglecting. :eek::)

-Inverted- 10-15-2006 06:25 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Thanks, with all these good comments I feel like updating it, so....my next week I will have all the new models in here, maybe some mini-z!

Seek and Destroy 10-15-2006 06:43 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 


ORIGINAL: -Inverted-

Thanks, with all these good comments I feel like updating it, so....my next week I will have all the new models in here, maybe some mini-z!
Don't forget the xmod. I have an xmod truck that's a crawler, I have upgraded it and it is actually pretty impressive. I post on mini-zracer more. They are more people there with the smaller cars.

-Inverted- 10-15-2006 06:47 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
What I meant by mini-z was the smaller scale cars, but probably not, I dont really have experience with those.

Seek and Destroy 10-15-2006 06:52 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Ohh, might want to add the micro-t.

CadillacDTS2001 10-15-2006 07:13 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
if he isnt posting about the x mod becausehe doesnt have one, or know any thing about it , i dont think he will post about the micro t considering no one knows any thing about it !!!

Seek and Destroy 10-15-2006 08:56 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
I just ordered mine! I hope I get it before everybody else so I can do a reveiw on it.

msinno 10-29-2006 07:30 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Inverted,

I am eagerly awaiting your updated edits to the original artlicle. Please make sure to include some additional info like motor selection (i.e. 7T vs. 13T or single/double/triple/quad windings, etc.) also, some extras on some common hop-ups (i.e. ESCs & motors)
To be honest, I am having a difficult time tryuing to find a good charger. I have read a lot about user recommendations, but at $50-$200 each, I don't want to go through a new charger then find out it only has the wrong features. On the battery front, it would be interesting to know when a battery needs to be discharged (and why) and when it needs to be cycled (and why). I can't find any good information that describes this.

msinno


ORIGINAL: -Inverted-

Thanks, with all these good comments I feel like updating it, so....my next week I will have all the new models in here, maybe some mini-z!

-Inverted- 10-29-2006 07:39 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Thanks for the tip, I apologize I have been busy lately and havn't had time to update.

msinno 10-29-2006 07:54 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
We all understand - not like updating this forum is your full-time job. Completely understand. Just wanted to see if I could get any info from someone who obviously knows what he is talking about.



ORIGINAL: -Inverted-

Thanks for the tip, I apologize I have been busy lately and havn't had time to update.

Seek and Destroy 10-30-2006 08:25 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
msinno, a good charger is the duratrax pihranna.

msinno 10-30-2006 10:46 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
ok, here is my problem, when you say Pihranna, do you mean:

1) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSG85&P=ML]DuraTrax Piranha CX-10 AC/DC Fast Charger[/link] for $25.99
or
2) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSF53&P=7]DuraTrax Piranha CX-15 AC/DC Fast Charger w/Meter[/link] for $31.99
or
3) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD548&P=7]DuraTrax Piranha AC/DC Peak Power Charger[/link] for $34.99 Note: NOT FOR NiMH [&:]
or
4) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCLD5&P=7]DuraTrax Piranha AC/DC Digital Peak Charger NiCd/NiMH[/link] for $49.99
or could I go with the
5) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAVN1]MRC Super Brain 959 Charger[/link] for $44.99

Now do you see why I am confused? I want to choose a good charger that will handle the stock battery & maybe the Duratrax 1400 battery for the RC18T, and maybe another battery for something a little more when my skills get better (possible 2000 or 3400 size) When and if I ever go the LiPo route, I can worry about a charger/temp sensor for it, but until that time, I don't want to get a new charger for every battery upgrade.

I am looking for AC/DC, but that is all I know. Now as far as care for the battery, can someone also answer when I need to discharge a battery, do I completely discharge a battery, can I just charge over and over (even if not fully used)? If so, do I have to discharge every 5-10 uses? What are the rules on Batteries and Chargers - There are too many options.

Sorry for venting, when I use Nitro, I only have to match the fuel nitro content (usually ok mixture of lube in fuel) and fill tank and go. I thought Electric was more straight forward. I have experience with Electric, but that was 10-15 years ago (Think when the "Grasshopper" and the "Big Wig" were the cool cars to get)

anyway, there are a LOT of questions above - can you please see if you can sort through them for me and anyone else reading this thread...

Thanks ahead of time. :D


ORIGINAL: rc18t145

msinno, a good charger is the duratrax pihranna.

Seek and Destroy 10-30-2006 10:53 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 

ORIGINAL: msinno

ok, here is my problem, when you say Pihranna, do you mean:

1) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSG85&P=ML]DuraTrax Piranha CX-10 AC/DC Fast Charger[/link] for $25.99
or
2) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSF53&P=7]DuraTrax Piranha CX-15 AC/DC Fast Charger w/Meter[/link] for $31.99
or
3) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD548&P=7]DuraTrax Piranha AC/DC Peak Power Charger[/link] for $34.99 Note: NOT FOR NiMH [&:]
or
4) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCLD5&P=7]DuraTrax Piranha AC/DC Digital Peak Charger NiCd/NiMH[/link] for $49.99
or could I go with the
5) [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAVN1]MRC Super Brain 959 Charger[/link] for $44.99

Now do you see why I am confused? I want to choose a good charger that will handle the stock battery & maybe the Duratrax 1400 battery for the RC18T, and maybe another battery for something a little more when my skills get better (possible 2000 or 3400 size) When and if I ever go the LiPo route, I can worry about a charger/temp sensor for it, but until that time, I don't want to get a new charger for every battery upgrade.

I am looking for AC/DC, but that is all I know. Now as far as care for the battery, can someone also answer when I need to discharge a battery, do I completely discharge a battery, can I just charge over and over (even if not fully used)? If so, do I have to discharge every 5-10 uses? What are the rules on Batteries and Chargers - There are too many options.

Sorry for venting, when I use Nitro, I only have to match the fuel nitro content (usually ok mixture of lube in fuel) and fill tank and go. I thought Electric was more straight forward. I have experience with Electric, but that was 10-15 years ago (Think when the "Grasshopper" and the "Big Wig" were the cool cars to get)

anyway, there are a LOT of questions above - can you please see if you can sort through them for me and anyone else reading this thread...

Thanks ahead of time. :D


ORIGINAL: rc18t145

msinno, a good charger is the duratrax pihranna.

I see. It''s #5. That one will do any charge rate from I think 1 or so to 5 amps. It does nicd and nimh. I don't really know about all of this discharging stuff, mainly because my charger won't do that. But, if you drive it till the bat is almost dead, (you see a definate speed decrease) then stop driving and charge it again. By driving it, you are using the batterys power, which is discharging the the bat.

I am not positive, but the race guys, they charge them, then drive them, then totally discharge them ( I think ) to get all of the power out of it. Then once it's totally discharged, they charge them back up. ~ I think, I am not positive on this~


EDIT: it is #4, I just looked at the price and thought that was it. After actually clicking on the links, I found out it was #4.:eek:

msinno 10-30-2006 11:15 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
ok, cool - thanks. I thought that was the one, but I didn't want to guess. Sorry for the 1 Million questions, but this battery and charger thing throws me around - and don't even get me started on motor terms (# of turns and # of wires) and different ESCs (ratings and features) I never thought this hobby had so many variables. Boy, was I wrong. Because there are so many variables, I want to make a good decision - That's where these boards come in -I get to ask questions first and let the experienced people answer them for me. :D

Thanks. :D;)[8D]

abjones413 11-05-2006 01:03 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 

Now do you see why I am confused? I want to choose a good charger that will handle the stock battery & maybe the Duratrax 1400 battery for the RC18T, and maybe another battery for something a little more when my skills get better (possible 2000 or 3400 size) When and if I ever go the LiPo route, I can worry about a charger/temp sensor for it, but until that time, I don't want to get a new charger for every battery upgrade.
If you want to get a charger for ALL types of batts, and can discharge and cycle, this is what you want - http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHDJ1&P=7
I personally have this one - http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXCLD5&P=ML and I love it. It offers many charging rates in .1 increments (so you can charge a 1400mAh at the recommended 1.4amps), AC/DC, 10 pre-sets for different batts (for instance, I have a stock 1100mAh NiMH, two IB1400mAh NiMH and two 2000mAh NiCds for a POS Radio Shack truck). You really can't go wrong with this one. But like I said, if you're planning on going LiPo down the road, get the ICE. I know it's a big price difference, but well worth it. Why spend $50 now and another $125 later?

PS- If you didn't already get the DTX1400 battery, don't. Get this one instead - http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMGW7&P=7 The IB cells are the hottest new NiMH cells, better than GP cells. The DTX1400 is neither IB or GP. I ran my brand new RC18MT the other day for over 30 min., close to 45 on a full charge - no *****. I have the stock 1100, two IB1400s and my AC/DC Piranha charger for all day fun! This is also available for more power (but possibly less runtime) and supposedly fits most minis - http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMGW8&P=7 I'm totally satisfied with my 6 cell 7.2v. As long as you charge properly, amps to mAh, your cells won't let you down. You could always quick charge at a higher amp and sacrifice runtime for more punch, but I like both punch and runtime, so I charge strictly by mAh.

-Inverted- 11-05-2006 01:40 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 

The IB cells are the hottest new NiMH cells, better than GP cells.
Pssh...Both are still ni-mh though! [sm=lol.gif] I guess im just addicted to li-po. [8D]

Seek and Destroy 11-05-2006 02:17 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Hey inverted, why do you think www.cheapbatterypacks.com doesn't do lipos?

-Inverted- 11-05-2006 02:23 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
You can purchase them from them and probably get them customized, but sonce there isnt many configurations or they dont have their own brand they dont have a custom option.

Seek and Destroy 11-05-2006 02:31 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
ohh.

-Inverted- 11-20-2006 12:48 AM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Wrong thread*

clutchbob 01-21-2007 09:10 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
I would also warn that most people are going to have to replace the electronics of some RTR's. I base this assertion on my experience with my Mini T and from what I've seen in other RTR threads. I would have been better off and it would actually have been less expensive to have purchased an ARR.

zimm11 02-01-2007 08:11 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
very good chocies on the cars 18T ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dokioto 02-01-2007 10:55 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Inverted do you think you can had the Trinity NEXT and the VTX Truggy to your nitro list?

-Inverted- 02-01-2007 11:06 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Yes...I have been meaning to update but I wont update until I have a full guide compiled because I have to have a mod or admin edit it.

Dokioto 02-01-2007 11:17 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
I see... The NEXT was my first Nitro and I am very glad I got it, so to any nitro beginner, who whats a mini... I would suggest the NEXT!

-Inverted- 02-02-2007 12:05 AM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Yep, what happened is apparently after chatting with the admin there is a 3 month period to edit, after that the edit function is disabled, so I need to compile a new guide. I will work on it soon, knee deep in product reviews. :D

Dokioto 02-02-2007 12:12 AM

RE: So you want a mini....
 


ORIGINAL: -Inverted-

knee deep in product reviews. :D
LOL, Good luck with that.

nitro _ burner 03-18-2007 05:14 AM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
is there enough micro 1/36 scale cars to start a guide about them?

msinno 03-18-2007 11:21 AM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
What else is there besides the Losi Micro-T?



ORIGINAL: nitro _ burner

is there enough micro 1/36 scale cars to start a guide about them?

maxxdout 04-01-2007 06:53 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Great thread! keep up the good work Inverted and everyone else who contributed!

mini-tmaster 04-02-2007 10:53 AM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
does anyone know what the teamlosi mini-t's top speed is stock.. if u do get back to me

maxxdout 04-04-2007 07:59 AM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
i gotta say 10-15 mph. with a better speed motor probbaly 15-20mph. With a mamba.....60mph lol.

slimdiggie 04-17-2007 05:49 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Inverted whats the best bang for the buck in a RTR box set for a
Stadium Truck or Monster Truck???

-Inverted- 04-17-2007 05:55 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Duratrax Vendetta ST no doubt.

Man I need to update this, I have been busy with other stuff, but it will come.

slimdiggie 04-17-2007 05:57 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Ok why would you say the Duratrax Vendetta ST? Because it comes with all the Aluminum Upgrades?

-Inverted- 04-17-2007 05:58 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Good onroad and offroad, tons of aluminum bits stock, good price, and a great car. Not to mention the stresstech warranty.

slimdiggie 04-17-2007 08:18 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
o.k thanks for the help how does that go on grass?

-Inverted- 04-17-2007 09:36 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
Works great anywhere within its limits.

slimdiggie 04-18-2007 04:49 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
well at lunch today i went ad ordered the Green Vendetta ST I hope it lives up to the way you guys hyped it up i'm excited to get it and try it out..

SparkedFlyer 04-25-2007 11:10 PM

RE: So you want a mini....
 
You wont be dissapointed with the Duratrax Vendetta ST. It's a solid performer out of the box. If you're new to R/C like I am you will be blown away by the speed out of the box. It had been years since I picked up an R/C car and this car is fast. I was crashing into curbs and stuff but I quickly got the hang of it. This thing has so much torque. It will go through my Bermuda grass (run time shortens and motor gets HOT running in grass), up hills, curbs, just about anything that clears the wheels. The handling is incredible. The range is great. No compliants except for a couple of minor gripes about the cheap ESC. Apart from that I havent broke anything yet so at $140 it's a steal. Get yourself a TP 1320 Lipo and you'll think you put a brushless motor in there. Unbelievable. Thats with the stock 13 tooth pinion and stock timing on the VR3. If i advance the motor timing and use a 16 or 19 tooth pinion, i cant imagine how fast the thing will go. I'm waiting on a brushless setup (GH 4700 and Quark 33A), but I'm thinking hard whether I need it or not. I cant believe the VR3 motor is only $15. i think i'll pick one up to have as a spare. I am very satisfied with my ST. I put some racing wheels and touring on-road low-profile tires on it and it looks sweet! It runs on pavement like a sports car but just rips through ruff stuff like a truck. Duratrax has done a nice job on this. I think this definately the best bang for the buck. The Mini-T is great, but only if you get the Pro ARR and add your own electronics and motor. The stock Mini-T is just OK. Just my opinion.


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