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Old 10-27-2005, 12:40 PM
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HI Guy`s /Gals..A friend gave me some old partly built kits .NO fuses ,or wings .The kits do have decals and seems to have, mostly all the plastic components.. so I`m hoping that someone can fill in some blanks for me ..The plans have been cut up, and missing parts/sections...I`ll put up pics of what I got here and keep these posts seperated Ithink it might help to keep the confusion to a mininum..I think I`ve gotten trapped in the 1/2A Black Hole..

1`st;;;Supermarine Spitfire:This one I recieved plans.for ti yesterday but thought i would show it here.I would like to help others if I can ,too..I`m going to do that vaccum molding buisness,and reproduce all the plastic bits so if someone wants them let me know I` will be reasonable,especially whith those that help me..I`m pretty new to these 1/2A fliers, so good advice is welcome too..DAVE B.
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:52 PM
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The next one I`ve got, is the P-51 Mustang..same thing with the majority not being there ..I`m missing half the plans though >Have the majority of the plastic I think .Again ,I`ll reproduce the plastic parts...I need the top, 1/2, front and back side of the plans .A good pdf.of the entire plan, would be GREAT......DAVE B.
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:13 PM
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I suppose most of you know, I`ve been building for my Nephews,but now, I want to build a "ME PLANE"..This one is a Guillows plan..I have nothing, but ,what looks like a mouse eaten document. .MY all time favorite plane(love`em) is the Corsair...This plan looks to me to be of an XF4U-1 proto-type ..I would like to scale it up so that it could handle that Norvel BIG MIG 0.074" ,,when the kids are not around ...So again ,suggestions, and ideas ,would be needed for this one too...I don`t have a canopy or anything else for this one so I`ll mold it, and offer it ,later on too..By the way I want these R/Cd............... DAVE B.
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:36 PM
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Last one ; Another MOUSE ??? I suspect, there was a young model builder, that lost intrest ,or got tired of snapping, the TWIGS on these models,not sure really.

.Here`s another Mustang,I have nothing for this ,except what`s in the pictures below..It`s circa 1962 made by COMET Model Hobbycraft it`s got a 24 1/2 " wing span as opposed to the Guillows @ 27 3/4" wing span...


So thats what I`ve got ....I`m thinking about getting some more lumber today/tomorrow,and would like to here some suggestions on, if If I should sheet the wihg/fuse(1/32"),or what to use, for coverings,etc..I`m really learning a lot, about the weight issues, with these little aircraft, and I am willing, to listen to the experianced RCU members ..THANKS, for any help,suggestions with these items .....DAVE B.
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Old 10-27-2005, 05:01 PM
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Default RE: fill in the blanks ...PLEASE !!!!!

Only worthwhile advice I have is that weight is everything. When I go buy wood for a 1/2a project I take my digital scale with me and weigh all the pieces and pick the lightest ones.

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UNfortunately the only digital scale I have is the one at the body shop,that I use to make paint,.It`s very accurate but to big to run around with.Plus, I`m off work, for a year, and I`m not supposed to set foot in the shop[&o]..I miss my work
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Dave,

You can get a digital postal scale from Staples.

To be honest, the Guillows kits, despite looking very nice, don't have a reputation for being good flyers. Not that it can't be done, but you're probably going to find that it will end up being a lot of work without the best results.

I'd recommend getting one of the ACE kits or, if you prefer something a with a more scale appearance, one of the House of Balsa kits. A Norvel .061 or better yet, a Norvel .074, is a good power plant for these kits.

[link=http://www.acehobby.com/ace/parkflyer.htm]ACE 1/2A Kits[/link]

[link=http://www.houseofbalsa.com/e/env/0001dtpL2mRz2cISUc2y5k1/index.html?link=/store/store-kits.html]House of Balsa Kits[/link]
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So you think I should toss those plans .all that is really here, is some plastic components.I was going to use that Big mig 0.074" whenever the kids aren`t around.....I`m covering the wing, by the way, should have something to show later on..I`ve got to get off the computer .I`ll look at those sites later on when I get back on...
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Dave ,

Bipe is right. He said it in a nice way but the bottom line is Guillows kits are crap. They were never ment to be a rc kit and require a hell of a lot of modification and redesign to make a weak marginal flier. The ace kits are an easy build semi scale, the HOB kits require a little more work but are alot closer to scale than the ace kits.

The ace kits fly awsome on a .061 as long as you don't overbuild and keep the weight down. The .074 is also a good choice but results in a heavier plane with poorer slow speed flight charicteristics. Frankly I like the light .061 powered versions better. The HOB P51 would also be a good flier with the .061 -.074. the latter being a tight fit requiring a little modification and a shoehorn


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Old 10-28-2005, 03:42 AM
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Dave,
Plans in a kit are often different from plans for a scratch built. From what I can see, even if you had virgin plans, you'd still be missing outlines for the bulkheads and ribs. Bipe Flyer hit the nail on the head.
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Old 10-28-2005, 05:13 AM
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DARN,, lost my reply.

.NO Guillows any more..I would like to try another scratch build , of some sort though...I `ll see what plans ,are around,and pass it by the OFFICIAL RCU PANEL,for approval first....WHAT do you folks think about the "Daddy O" ? B Mathews offered up some plans at 1 point too...I won`t jump the gun on this project though..I want to do some studying on which ever project first..
THANKS EVERYONE,,,,,,,DAVE B.
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Guillows planes are okay, but there are better models to convert to gas r/c, though MANY of these guillows planes have been succesfully converted.
As far as worth of what you got, two of the three guillows kits are still available, they are around $25 each, and plans and such ARE available from guillows, and the plans DO show all parts. Ribs and formers included. The smaller guillows corsair is an older kit that has been out of production since the sixties. Not suitable for RC conversion, too small. The Comet Mustang is a decent kit, but a lot of work to convert. It's much beefier than most comet kits, but it's really an 020 sized model, not 049.
Get the Ace or other kits if you want a successful RC job without a lot of pain.
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Guillows is off my mind ,now for anything but diplay/static models from now on..I`m open to other plans for a scratch build, scale war bird,or ????..I actually have a Sig, Mr MULLIGAN plan, somewhere.If I was to increase that by 100% maybe???...HMM..FLY R/C is coming out this issue with a DAUNTLESS....Ideas still welcome though ,I just want to stay away from a kit..
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I went to the hobby shop and did exactly opposite, to what I said, in the last post here...I couldnt help myself[]..I saw an F4U-4 kit for up to 0.07"engine and picked it up..1`st contradiction(no kit),to what I wrote above..Worse yet the 2`nd contradiction,,,,It was a Guillows kit [&:]..About 5 minutes later, I recalled what I wrote above,walked back down the isle and put it back on the shelf.CLOSE CALL....So I started eyeing up the wood shelves there, and remembered the less expensive connection ,BIPER gave me for balsa ,and quit looking at that too..Going to go that routefor a scratch something or other.But I did pick up a kit.Had them open it up for me.Looked like a higher quality kit for sure..Sort of scale, but needs improvements,to suit my taste..Looks to be a fairly simple fix for the 1 thing that bothers me and I have to change...Any one hear of HERR ENGINEERING CORP..?? It`s a name I know nothing of .Any reports..I`m going to do some searching, and see what I can dig up, on them..
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Herr makes very good quality kits. They are distributed by SIG, as is Norvel, and they are designed for use with Norvel engines. Which Herr kit did you get?

The website is http://www.iflyherr.com
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This looks like it`s going to, fall together well .I thought I wrote the model down. It`s the AT-6 Texan...It`ll tide me over till I can decide on a scratcher .GOING to order materials, as you suggested to do ,too, BIPER..I`m not sure why they, would have designed the forward fuse ,like a box ,simplier build maybe..as far as scale look goes it should have been Round, like a barrel....shouldn`t be too hard to round it out ..unless someone can tell me why not, to do that .I think, I can keep it light, too..

I had to fight,with myself, to put that Corsair down though; sort of like ,,,HI, my name is DAVE, and I`m addicted to, CORSAIRS,and I`m trying to recover from,Guillows kits!! The other day I-----,,well,you get the drift..DAVE B.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:48 AM
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Looking at this pic.I`m thinking that,the Square ,forward fuse, might be their solution to, engine cooling airflow,since it`s a cowled in..I think I can still make it nicer, and allow the heat, out the bottom of the cowl instead,at a 3:1 air ratio (out : in).I`ll think this out ,first a little more..Almost got a 0.06"in the car too(last one at the shop).But,I changed my mind..Are you guys having problems getting your hands on these engines .I was told that SIG, is not Importing as many ,as they were/could ,before.If this is true ,I`ll phone them, and get the shop owner, to hold on to it for me..I was going to get it for my CONTEST plane..
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Dave,

Get your Norvels from http://www.greathobbies.com the prices are great.

You can make the fuse round by gluing some foam to the sides, sanding it and then sheeting it with 1/32" balsa.

Here are a couple of pictures showing what I mean.
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Oh,OH more ideas..I was thinking some thin formers and some stringers W/1/32" sheet ..got options now ..Thanks...Is that the same kit ?? YOURS???

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