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Old 12-06-2008, 06:48 PM
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Default 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

Well i am starting a new kit and was wondering if anyone has got some tips on the House of BalsaBeachcraft Bonanza! Its been Re-realesed im to the point where im collecting all the info and parts to start my 3 plane build!
Old 12-07-2008, 01:38 PM
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

Hmmmm,
I have one too, but the first production run, bought it off someone in this forum, I have the FW190 and it flies amazingly well. I always liked the beachcraft so I got one. The one thing to look out for when building the kit is be carefull when painting the plastic top, some ifnot most hobby paints attack the plastic and cause shrinkage, deforming the peice and causing alot of frustration, the same is true with using common bondo fillers on it or around it, the plastic will get attacked and shrink and the crack your trying to fill will keep coming back. I have a norvel .074 in the FW190, I'm thinking of using a .061 ap in the bonanza or a norvel .061 if I can find one in good condition.
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Hmmmm,
I have one too, but the first production run, bought it off someone in this forum, I have the FW190 and it flies amazingly well. I always liked the beachcraft so I got one. The one thing to look out for when building the kit is be carefull when painting the plastic top, some ifnot most hobby paints attack the plastic and cause shrinkage, deforming the peice and causing alot of frustration, the same is true with using common bondo fillers on it or around it, the plastic will get attacked and shrink and the crack your trying to fill will keep coming back. I have a norvel .074 in the FW190, I'm thinking of using a .061 ap in the bonanza or a norvel .061 if I can find one in good condition.
I just bought the HOB FW190, it looks like a nice little kit what did you end up covering it with,I am torn between plain old monocoat iron on covering or silkspan and paint, I was thinking of going electric so I can fly it in the local park with my kids this is the smallest RC plane I will have built in many years but I know "light is right" so I will try too build it as lean as possable.

my kit also comes with the P-47 plans on the other side is this the usuall thing with the HOB kits a nice selling point "if you like this model try this other one"
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

I covered the wing with monokote and used lustercote for finishing, wood was sealed and sanded smooth, so far the paint and fuse has held up great, but be carefull of what paint you use on the plastic top, it might attack it and cause shrinkage when it dries.
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:12 PM
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

I had a Bonanza, 5 channel with tri gear retracts powered with an O.S. .10 in the nose. If I ever do build another one. I will use a foam core wing and replace most of the wood with lighter stuff. I covered the wing with light weight covering. I picked it up at a LHS and do not remember the brand name. I did fill the balsa fuse and tail with Kilz, then attached the plastic cockpit to the box fuse. Filled the gap with micro balloons and slow Zap.

HS-81 for ailerons, V-tail, HS-55 for main and nose gear, HS-55 for throttle. It was HEAVY but looked good in the air. I loved watching the gear go up and down. I liked watching the gear to much. I cycled the gear once to many times and the battery died in air. Plowed in. I think I would go with HS-81 for the main gear or a better servo then the HS-55. It had just enough power to cycle them.


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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

I am building my V35 with retracts. torn between the Robarts or the G.W.S. I have been fishing anywhere and everywhere for tips, to insrue that my aircraft is as light and as scale as possible.
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

Robarts, don't even think of anything else, the quality is 100x better. I think retracts would add to the coolness factor but I still want to have good flight manors, so I just may leave all gear off and do the toss and correct method on my bonanza. But first I have to finish the Quickie.[&o]
Old 12-11-2008, 03:05 PM
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

I picked up the Robarts, still looking for a few more odds and ends before i start playing with the model glue. "LOL" im hoping to get these projects up and rolling before the Holiday! some "me" time. now the biggest delema is to go Electric or Glow. I've opt. for sum micro servos. "lighter". But for running lights im not sure what to do! gotta have them!

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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

The V35 is a great little kit and makes a very fun little plane. I left the gear off and hand launched it. It just looks WRONG with the gear hanging out and retracts add too much weight and complexity. With a Norvel .074, 3 HS81's and a 7 gram servo for throttle it came in around 24ozs. It was pretty fast but would slow down well, did great aerobatics and if the wind was calm it could do touch and goes on the belly. There was alot of opportunity for weight savings and it would make a good electric plane. Mine had a nav light set and a beacon using T1 LED's and magnet wire. The weight was almost nothing and the cool factor was high. As stated, be careful with the plastic canopy, I painted mine with car body paint on the inside and it caved in. So the sides of the cabin were concave. I went with ultracote covering and used a trim stripe to hide the wood/plastic seam on the canopy. That little plane could take a beating! The worst that would happen is the wing would break its mount in the fuse.
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Old 12-11-2008, 08:57 PM
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

That looks so sweet, I can't wait to get mine started. I have to figure out the game plan first, engine,servos,tank,battery size and most important,...color scheme.
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

I used the HS81's, but you could use something smaller, although I think that HS55's may be too small. I had both the Norvel .061 and .074 in it. The .061 was ok but would overheat in the summer. The .074 had lots of power for it and never had any problems. I tried several tanks and settled on a Fuji film tank right behind the firewall. Also the battery was a 4c 400NiMh.
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

beenie,

That looks sweet in flight. I do agree it would look better with the LG left off, but still looks good none the less. If the airframe was lightened retracts (and even flaps?) could become a viable option, and loosing weight is not too difficult with this airframe.

For servos I think the HS-65HB would be a good match. They have plenty of power for 1/2A and not much heavier than the HS-55.

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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

The HS65's are wonderful servos. Just slightly larger than the 55's but stronger and faster. You could easily lighten it enough to have flaps and retracts, room for all that equipment is there but it may be tight.
I used to fly a V35 and loved seeing the model in the air. Its outlines aren't terribly accurate (for example the nose is way too long) but for some reason it looks like a perfect little reproduction.
Keep us posted.
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Yeah the 65's are a hair longer, I had to sand the frame on my heli to replace the 55's it called for. But they're 26 a piece, not worth the price for it's application, in a percision heli, yes,............1/2A bonanza, no.
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

if your going with retracts what size would you guys recomend if I had my choice I was thinking of these http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUY31&P=0 they seem robust enough for a 25oz plane and at .5oz per unit there light enough for a model of this size.
for my FW I would want retracts if there resonable in weight and strong enough the next size up are another 1/2oz heavier another choice would be the Robart micro's http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXES09&P=0 but they look less robust than the previous GP ones, what do you guys think?
Old 12-13-2008, 01:55 AM
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Go with the Robarts! their quality is unmatched in this feild. i bought Robarts, GWS, Great Planes, & Hobbico tp test and really get a first Opinion. I then Asked Around and, was not shocked when all the answers came back to the RObarts! belive me you wont go wrong with them
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

Reading this thread stirred me right up to buy one. I ordered it this morning from Graves r/c in Florida. $40.99 + shipping
Old 12-16-2008, 02:22 AM
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Thats Great! these kits are just wonderful to build! and the options are limitless. i looked up the aircraft on Graves website! are good deal. good luck, and have a blast building
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

Thought some of you might like to see my stalled FW-190 build. For fun, I decided to put flaps and retracts in it [8D], and this is obviously giving me a bit of a headache with the linkage. It's not an issue with the size of the wing it has more to do with the design of the Robart gear I chose. Hobbico 10 sized gear would have been much easier to rig.

4 servo's in the wing (2 for ailerons, 1 flaps, 1 gear) and 2 in the fuse (ele, rud). It will be electric powered with a 250W motor, 25A ESC and 1350 FP lipo. Aside from the retract linkage and the pilot (which I waited 3 months to order ), the airframe could be finished quite quickly. I lightened the fuselage considerably to compensate for the heavier wing. However, I think that I might make a plain foam wing with no gear for flying. The gear and flap wing is for kicks... who knows, if I can bring it in under 25 oz. it might just be ok!

I was considering finishing with clear film and testors model master flat paint.

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Old 12-17-2008, 02:28 PM
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

Here's another couple of my fuse gear layout.

Motor mounted to a glassed ply nose ring I made, hollowed out FW, ESC and battery in fuel tank area, CC BEC & AR6100 in radio bay, HS-55's double sided tape mounted on their side for elevator and rudder. Probably two 6" FG arrow shaft pushrods to the back (although stiff balsa might be lighter).

I actually would have preferred to stick to the plans for the nose area and simply use the FW for mounting the motor but motors this size with high KV are hard to find with FW mounts. In order to be able to use a spinner, I had to mount the prop on the shaft rather than the can requiring the front to be modified.

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Old 12-17-2008, 02:55 PM
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An interesting and certainly welcomed visit from a Classic Pattern guy. Get that FW finished up - up north, you should have plenty of build time over the winter months.
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Well, thanks for the welcome Andrew. I didn't know that so much could be told from these pages... pattern is a passion. The electrics are a "how does this work" kind of experiment. Something to do with my boy (actually my daughter is more interested but still a little young... go figure).

...winter is long but not long enough to finish all the projects I'd like

Gotta have patience in this hobby, right?

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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

Just be carefull you don't exceed the ESC's BEC rating for running all the servos. Other wise it will reset durring flight or burn out, I just wanted to mention it because it happened to me using the same ESC from GP, except it was in my heli, not fun watching the heli drop out of the sky and having no control till the last second.
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

PB,

thanks for the heads up. As mentioned a couple of posts up, I plan to use a CC BEC and disable the ESC's BEC. I figured 6 servo's, even micro's, would exceed the ESC's capability. CC's BEC is a nice little piece of engineering - 0.3 oz or thereabouts - I guess like adding one more HS-55. Given all the gear, the plane is likely to be a bit on the heavy side reason for wanting a simpler foam wing.

Ideally, I'd want to finish it the lightest way possible. I don't know what that would be aside from clear thin film everywhere and nothing else. Any suggestions?

Thanks, David.
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Default RE: 1/2a House of Balsa Bonanza V35

PB,

BTW, nice picture of your FW190! You must have finished it during the days of Lustrekote abundance. Those colors are long gone []

What's your gear layout and AUW? Did you mention what engine you're using? Some additional photos would be cool.

I understand the FW190 is one of the best 1/12th's in the air. I'm thinking of also building a P47 and/or P51. I also like the Chipmunk - cute little thing.

Cheers, David.

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