Ebay insanity and the TD.010
 

wow.... someone made out ok on that sale!

"The main difference between genius and stupidity is that Genius has it's limits"

Albert Einstein

My dad had a different tilt on that quote--
"No matter how idiot proof a manufacturer makes a product,-----------------------------------------------------------
-- There allways seems to be a better idiot'

Holy guacamole, Batman!

Geez Loiuse, $500? Now I wish I had hoarded a few .020's instead of .010's..

I wonder if I can get $200 for a lightly used Pee Wee?

I'm rich, I'm rich!!

These normally go for $80.00 to $100.00
I'm fortunate to have 6 NIB TD .020s and a bunch of slightly used ones on the shelf. I bought a bunch years ago when it was certain that Cox would no longer manufacture this engine. At the time, I was into .020 Replica Free Flight and thought that I should stock up. Over the years as my friends went to electric, I acquired more. I also have a number of .010s too.
I think I will hold on to them, seems like they are a better investment than my stocks and bonds.

Orv.

Man, If I sell half of my collection I can retire!

On the other hand, people may snap out of it and you miss your window if you don't sell now. :)

I have only one TD and it's never run. Somewhere along the line the plastic case cracked. It's a .051. I should look at fixing it before the case costs $500.00.

Git yourself one of those aluminum replacements from fleabay. $15-$16.

Thanks. I don't see aluminum but I do see the plastic.

Yeah, I had 200 made in China complete with the crystal case for about $7 a pop, and been dolling them out about once a month for $200-500. Broke even in 5 months.

Oh boy, you're right.. I was looking at the .020 and .049 parts the other day and thought there were .010 versions too.. my bad.

The others are available on Cox International. Where's the .010 version..? ;-)

I'd be very surprised if that sale goes through-looks like two idiots having a bidding war for the hell of it. The winning bidder e***e has only 3 feedbacks-that should set off alarm. bells.....the losing bidder over 3000-so something smells distinctly fishy to me-shill bidding? A put up job? Or stupid is as stupid does?

I'm with Orv on this one-the usual price is USD 80-120.....

ChrisM
'ffkiwi'

$20 airplane, 6 for $24.95 receiver, $15 LiFe battery, $500 engine...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=1956231

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Cox-010-Tee-D...item485fa77014

see seller "ridenfligh"

Even if it is a put on I'm guessing that at least one of the last of the bidder's is for real. And that still puts the cost WAY over the top.

We seem to be at a peak for this sort of nonsense. And I suspect it'll go on for a few more years. But consider that these things are only worth top dollar to those that think they need one so badly. As the electric power revolution replaces glows in use those of us that grew up seeing things like the TD .010 and .020 as desirable is going to fade. And one day folks will look at these same NIB engines and say" that's cute. But I can't see paying $30 for something that useless".

This WILL happen as us old codgers that cut our teeth during the heyday of the small glow engines die off and there are less around that lust after such things.

Considering that recently they have been going on eBay for more like $175.00, this whole transaction is suspect.

So true about the desirability of these engines.. I lust after them because (a) they are way cool as we all know, and (b) as an impressionable youth of 4-8 years old I used to idolize my big brother and his FF/RC antics using a variety of .010/.020/049 engines. So huge nostalgia factor for me, on top of the fun factor. The first engine I ever got was a Pee Wee as a birthday gift, and a CG Ranger 30 to go with it.. man was I excited that morning! But no CA in 1969.. a hyperactive kid and slow drying cement are like oil and water.

Thanks! The link is for a .010 but I found what I needed using the seller you provide. I've got one on order. I really appreciate it!

One more item crossed off my list. I have few other engines needing parts as well but I don't know what engines or what parts. I picked up several kits and engines at a yard sale from a guy who had quit the hobby long prior. One day I'll look at the engines and hopefully be able to find the parts. None of the engines are that great or worth anything though. I think they're almost all Fox CL engines from the 70's and an Enya .09 I believe.

I guess I had better hang onto my bag of .010's and .020's

I thought you were looking for an .010 carb body?

Now that I found them I will order a couple, and I like those aluminum backplates too.

aluminum body for TD 049 & 051

http://www.ebay.com/sch/merchant/ridenfligh

WOW now that guy just had to have that particular engine I spose. Its a relative thing, price/desire, the 010 is getting rare and I bet the new owner probably wont be running it. I saw a peewee 020 new in the bubble pack go for $229 on ebay not long ago. I don't collect but I do have a few dozen engines that I purchased and intend to run and fly a plane. Some may see that as an excess, its relative to my desire.

It's fun hoarding engines. I'm a rookie compared to many. This is the 1/2A & thereabouts drawer.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/atta...mentid=1958230

I could use a couple of .020 parts. Anybody with any extra please email me at [email protected]

What parts do you need?

Well, I ordered on the 14th and got it in the mail on the 17th. Pretty quick service.

Now does anyone know if the TD uses different glow heads than the rest of their engines? I have parts from Babe Bee's, Black Widows and Golden Bees but the heads are all mixed up. If there is a difference are there markings or something?

Yes it does-it uses the #1702 high compression head. Essentially there are four different Cox 049 heads-all of which are interchangable and usable-but not necessarily 'optimum' for any particular engine-especially if you get the wrong head on the engine. The TD head-the #1702 has a small conical combustion chamber with a squish band-and on the top of the head has a circular knurled ring about 10mm diameter and about 1.2mm wide. This is purely decorative but it does allow you to distinguish a TD head when fitted to an engine without needing to remove it-all the other 049 heads do not have this knurled ring. The other types are (obviously) the standard 302 reed valve head-which has a lower compression broad cone shape, and the 5-fin Texaco head-which is readily distinguishable by its extra fins-but inside is exactly the same as the standard 302. There is also a 'plain' head-with only one vestigial fin intended to be used with a finned clamp on heat sink for cars-this too is just a standard low compression head on the inside.

Now depending how old your accumulation is, you might find the earlier 302 heads with a hemi chamber rather than a shallow conical one-the change from hemi to shallow cone occurred ca 1975. Much rarer still are the ones with a W-shaped element, not a coil (Cox was a bit naughty-and pinched someone else patented idea-and lost the subsequent patent infringement court case) and the very earliest pre 1955 049 heads had a smaller diameter threaded section.

Simple rule-if it's knurled on top, its a TD head, if it isn't it's one of the others...this rule also applies to the 09 and 15 engines-but not the smaller 020 and 010s

ChrisM
'ffkiwi'

Good info from our Kiwi friend.. I realize how little I knew about Cox glowheads other than that there are TD plugs and reedie plugs.

Yep he is right. I don't use anything but the TD heads unless I want to run a huge prop. Merlin plugs are ok too, and cheaper. They only fit the .049 and .06.

ffkiwi - thanks. I thought I saw one or more of my glowheads having some knurling on top around the stem. After reading your post I looked in my bag of glowheads and sure enough there it was. I have no clue if it works - didn't put any juice to it yet. I have to get some prop bolts before I do anything else.

A few years ago I put together a Black Widow on my test stand. I changed out every cylinder I have until I found the one that gave it the highest RPM with whatever prop/fuel I was using. So somehow I was attaching a prop but I can't find a 5-40 bolt anywhere in my ten gazillion pieces of hardware and none of my .049's have a prop bolt. A couple have that stud and I don't even know if it comes out or not. It's stuck solid in all my engines. Will take a good soak or heat to loosen them up assuming they are supposed to come out.

Thanks for the post. It was very helpful.

Sometimes you can find a 1/8" stove bolt which is a #5-40, at the hardware stores.

I'll take a look next time I'm there. Thanks.

A quick minor correction to my previous post-the ORIGINAL Cox 049 reed valve head was the #302 (up till 1955) and the #302-1 afterwards-(the only difference was the 302-1 had a larger diameter threaded portion) -both with a 'hemi' head profile, the ca 1975 replacement I mentioned earlier was the #325 head, which had a shallow cone profile and was also produced in Texaco (5-fin) and car (1-fin) variants-with different part numbers. My earlier post might not have been quite clear on the distinctions......

ChrisM
'ffkiwi'

Hey, I have one of those. Not in a display case but completely functional.