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nitro joe 04-16-2003 01:45 AM

Herr kit
 
Thinking about hanging my .061 BigMig r/c on the front of one of these.


http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LE1473&P=1

There calling it a "breezy day" flier whatever that is?

Got some micro gear needing a home in a relaxed summer evening type flyer, that'll scoot along when the mood strikes.

You guys think this may fit the bill?

I did some searching here and google but, no reveiws or other detailed pics showed up.

Seems many here like the quality of the herr kits.

nitro joe

Lynn S 04-16-2003 02:22 AM

Herr kit
 
I'm not sure it would hold up under the power of a gas engine.
It looks ok for electric.

nitro joe 04-16-2003 04:40 AM

Herr kit
 
Lynn S

Good point. Anyone know how it's probably constructed?
(from past Herr kit experience)

nitro joe

Mavericman 04-19-2003 03:36 AM

Herr kit
 
you may be best off with a herr star cruiser. I built one about 3-4 yrs ago but never flew it. Went toghther well. Requires an 0.049-0.061 motor. No ailerons. Its a trainer. but if your looking for a relaxing flyer, i see no need for them

spyder0069 07-02-2003 02:56 AM

Herr kit
 
I just built one of these with a norvel .061. I'd have to say I am pretty dissappointed with its flight characteristics. I weighed it out and the .061 setup (engine, servo, tank) was only a ounce heavier than the electric setup (motor, speed control, battery) before fuel. I added ailerons to it as well which only added another half ounce for the servo. Total up and running weight with fuel was 13.5 oz. The box shows 9. I weighed it with electrics and it came out to about 12 so I don't know where they get 9 from. Anyway the .061 is seriously overpowered for this plane. It can prop hang at less than 3/4 throttle with a 6x3. At full throttle it pulls out verticle quickly. Here are the problems.....

First, have to add lots of right trim due to torque of engine.
Second, no slow fly due to inherant instability. I have read several posts on this plane having a tendancy to spiral in and I have had this happen unexpectedly 4 or 5 times. Luckily I was up high enough to be able to recover. I moved the center of gravity both forward and back on several flights trying to find a sweet spot where this wouldn't happen. Mostly I think its due to too much throw on the elevator and a short fuselage. After many hairy flights I got it to fly 1/2 way decent but it hates right turns, does ok inverted, easily loops, lands HOT. I actually limited the throttle (via computer radio) to about 3/4. Hand launches had to be done at less than 1/2 throttle or it would torque over immediately on launch and crash (luckily I was testing in 4 foot high weeds). I recently put floats on it and flew it from a hand launch. Once again it likes 1/2 throttle or less for flying and slow easy manuevers. Off the water it has plenty of power to come up on step and would take off fine but out of the 3 times I went out I only got a chance to try to takeoff once and I did a water loop and busted a float from its mount. If I were to do it again I would make the wing longer by one extra spar length on each side. Probably would go with the throttled .049 (second thought, no I wouldn't, even though I supposedly know better). I just retired it as a gas plane. After 20 flights I was hoping this would be a neat little park plane but its too unstable to feel comfortable with. And BREEZY DAY? Ha Well being that its a covered wing and not undercambered I am sure they may call it that. However, I would fly my old GWS cub in twice the wind that I would fly this in. I have 2 other herr kits (Cloud ranger, AT-6 Texan) both are excellent flyers, a 1/2a house of balsa Chipmunk and ME109, and some 40 size planes. Really I suppose you can't expect a 14oz or less plane to handle a "breezy day" (8 mph is norm and 15 would be breezy here in Illinois). I just finished mounted the 280 motor back on it. We'll see if I can squeeze some fun out of this yet (got nothing to lose).

spyder0069 07-02-2003 02:58 AM

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p.s.

I had to mix rudder to ailerons (about 30%) for proper turning at lower speeds otherwise they really struggled.


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