John, Great post to show BKuch what can be done in this hobby. Maybe he will have a special bond and heed your advice on how to start off the right way. Seems like way to many young newbees have thier ego hurt by the term "trainer plane". How often do we hear "Can I learn on this (fill in the blank,......P-51, P-47, staggerwing, extra 300, B-52, etc)? BTY, looks like you belong to a great club out there in Az.