I stopped by a neighboring club to visit today,, talking with the guys there, they are down to 40 members after having over 100 a few years back,,, I thought we had problems at 75 members, we had over a 100 a 2-3 years ago too, I'd say well over 90% of our membership fly ARFs exclusively ,,, Pushing away newbie guys who fly ARFs is a good formula for flying by your snooty, snob, elitist self all alone out in the desert,, have fun with that.