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Old 04-29-2019, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by flejter1
Mikey5547,


Please go back and read my original post. Yes, our first impression was the jet was performing good. After a few more flights, the thread of the wing clamp stripped (not because of cross threading, but because of inferior material and possibly bad workmanship from the factory, regardless, when confronted, Jaing Yi admitted they had found the same problems in China) and that was not the end of the world because we found the problems before one of our customers would have to loose a jet. There was a field repair to install a larger self tapping screw in the pinch clamp before it was flown and we really don't think the pinch clamp alone is the reason for a wing failure. Flaws are to be expected on new aircraft and we are willing to take those risks before we assume they are good to sell. The problem came when Aviation Jets refused to fixed the problems and wanted us to sell all the kits already produced. I informed everyone about our failure, and the fact, that the Factory knew about it before they shipped our SU-35 and didn't think it was necessary to tell us. When we talked about a fix, they refused to fix the issue with the SU-35 before delivering our customers jets and wanted us to continue to take orders. That is when we declined to sell this jet. Obviously you don't know who we are and what we stand for at Pacific RC Jets. We are not some Dealer that will sell anything just to make a buck off of you and turn a blind eye to sell a known defective product. We fly what we sell and use ancillary products we sell in our own jets. Anytime a new jet is coming out, ourselves or someone from our team will thoroughly test it in order to optimize your experience of success.


My comment about GJC was purely that they are claiming the Sparrow, designed by my partner Barry Hou to be their "Global Jet Club Sparrow", like they designed and paid to have it built. We clearly spec'd out the design to Aviation Jets, paid Aviation Jets $15,000 to build the mold and produce this jet for Pacific RC exclusively. We also gave permission for Aviation Jets to sell the Sparrow in China only and they agreed. GJC is basically stealing our design and claiming it as their own, and I have a HUGE problem with that!! If GJC wants to pay us for the design rights and name and return our initial investment of $15,000, they can contact us to talk about it. Mike Lin claims to have a Aeronautical Engineering Degree, well maybe he should design his own jets and claim them as Global Jet club what ever. Why don't you put some time and effort into designing a product, pay to have it manufactured and have it back doored to another company and have them claim it as their own product......


I never attacked GJC or Carrie with Banana Hobby for selling AV Jets, as I personally don't give a crap that they are selling AV jets or any other manufacturers jets. GJC can promote and sell the inferior SU-35 all they want and they will have to deal with their customers issues, that is their choice. Claiming they have seen the SU-35 perform cobra maneuvers and that makes it a solid air frame is ridiculous. Watch the video, and you will see the cobra maneuver is to be entered in a very slow airspeed in order for the thrust vectoring to "kick" the jet up and over at a very little G force. The whole flight they are flying the jet like a high wing trainer. I encourage them to fly that jet like Kris Gunter flew our prototype T-One F-22 at Florida jets or Barry flying our West coast prototype and lets see how the SU performs. I can tell you Barry flew the SU-35 like most of our customers will fly it, and the bottom line is "it failed".


If another Dealer or customer wanted to get on the forum and bash us because of a T-One jet, you will find we welcome and encourage customer suggestions, as T-One is very pro active to make changes to improve their products. SkyMaster may be slow at building jets at this time, but if they have a bad design and are informed about it, they will also fix it before it gets sold to another customer and they also take care of business fast and professionally.

Pacific RC Jets is very selective of who's and what products we sell. Again, we are not in business to sell anything and everything just to make a buck. When we have issues that a factory is not willing to resolve, we will drop them and move on.



Regards,


Dirk

Pacific RC Jets
Hi Dirk,

Your accusation of GJC "Steal" the design is going to put you in a very bad legal situation. You should check with Barry on the contract you had with AV. We didn't say GJC design the plane. Private label is a common practice in any business. Also you don't have the right to the Sparrow any more as the terms and conditions in your contract with AV were not met. You were required per contract to sell a monthly minimum quantity of 10 per month for 2 years (200 kits). How many have you sold over the past 3 years? You didnt pay them $15,000. You only put $11,000 per contractual agreement as deposit for the joint development of this project (read your contract). Then the deposit is to be spread over to each plane you sold. AV claimed that they design the plane and have the original ownership of it. Prove your ownership of Sparrow. Even if it's your design, then Barry was OK to have GJC selling the Sparrow. You should work out your licensing deal with AV and don't target dealers or customers who buy planes from your "contractual" partner. Your true intent is to smear GJC and AV after your deal with AV fell out. Why don't we let AV speak their view point. I am sure they have their stance. Your biggest problem is the way you handle the situation by dragging unrelated parties into the whole thing with your childish accusation.

Mike