Why do people keep wanting to kill a thread that is generating so much interest and response? If you don't like it, aren't there at least 100 other topics you can spend time looking at? For me it's always interesting to see this side of human nature come out in people. What we've been having is almost a "test tube" religious debate between the fundamentalists and some new fangled cult. This topic has provided me, and the guys at the local RC club with a lot of laughs.Thanks for your steadfast support LAYNE, you are a genuine PITBULL when you take a stand. To all the guys who took the time to dig up every literal translation that has ever been printed about FLAPERON, I thank you and hope that none of you plan on coming over to burn down my house. CHUCK AUGER, leave it to a TEXAN to explain with some very chosen words the reason behind the evolution of the term.