Well i am going to have to take your advice. The cap is really really nice plane Yellow aircraft with saito 100 motor twin cylinder. all digi servos. I would really be upset if i did smash it. So therefore i will buy a cheaper advanced plane with good slow flying abilities, (big wing area i want?) I will check out those kits mentioned in the above post. Thanks for all the help. Fhhubber never took offense i appreciate your feedback . TY all