Hey Dan, sorry if I came off as a little gruff there....didn't mean for it to read that way!

Unfortunately there are a lot of guys that think you should be able to have an insta3duberplane because the box says so and then when it doesn't work they way they think it should they get mad and rant and rave all over the net and at the field about how they were hosed.

If your into helis then your a tinkerer. I know because I worked on the real thing for many years and they are every bit as maintenence intensive as the models....or is it the other way around....??

3D flying is the biggest challenge that this hobby can offer(with the possible exception of helis) and the payoff is very rewarding when you finally get it all dailed in and flying the way it's suppossed to.

Happy flying!