Thanks for the info, it is temping at that price. I guess I'm cheap. Most likely I'll get a CA or a Cardon because a plane that will not do what I want it to is worthless and you and up building a new one. A waste of money and time for sure. I'm leaning toward a Cardon, man I hate going with the crowd but I like my planes to look good along with fly well. I need to move soon Cardon is about to say"last call".