Oh, I'm sorry you just want people to blow smoke up your ass and tell you it's a great plane.

You said you wanted "to get into the 3D arena" and others come along and tell you what you want to hear so they are pertinent to the conversation? Just cause I have a differant opinion, that apparently others agree with, don't tell me not to post.

Trainers have nothing to do with this conversation, they all will do the trick and some older designs may actually be lighter and better. For example the Kadet Senorita that I learned on was very light yet extremely durable compared to some of the ARFs of today. A Cub isn't a good comparison either because it represents a scale version of a plane that many people love to fly.

So if you want everyone to agree with you just say so and I won't bother to give what I consider useful information. If you are going to ask for opinions than don't get your panties in a wad when someone gives one.