Have you ever attempted all of these fancy manuevers with real plane other than a UCANDO and the simulator,,, They might seem easy and all and you might THINK you have gotten them down pat but get out and start cutting up and trying these low nonheard of manuevers with a 3000 dollar airplane and see how things go, I don't dismiss the thought of you being good, and young, I just turned 24 years old and I know I am good, but my right time will come, first off I can't afford a 35%er yet maybe in a couple of months, I just graduated college and am paying off some important bills, but right now I am practicing, practicing and more practice, just take you time and think things through, [sm=thumbup.gif]