Now , How high do I have to be to begin the flat spin ? [X(] I tried to do one this weekend and I was so afraid to lose the plane I just couldn't complete one spin. The plane you are talking about is it a low winged trainer? mine is high. Oh well I like the way 3d planes can have so much control but I'm not ready to risk crashing some expensive 3d plane trying to complete tricks.

I will say I did a knife edge this past weekend. The nose was high about 35% in angle and I held it for about 15 seconds. The wind was so calm I was trying every thing in the book. My invert is so sweet, I have it mastered to the point I can make one turn.

Thanks guys.