a little left aileron will get it rolling. ive had it going so fast with my Jumping Jack that i didnt even need to use elevator no more just rudder for corrections. does the same with my ucando and my cap maniac.. when it gets spinning a certain speed it seems like just rudder corrections are all needed untill you get out of sequence on your corrections. i dont do that near deck yet just slow prop induced torque rolls.. it was rolling in the pics i posted.