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Old 09-01-2009, 09:23 PM
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Mine was 2# 6.2 ounces ready to fly with 3s, it was a bit more on 4s but I didn't weigh it. I mounted the battery with velcro on the fuse and batt and then cut a slot for a velcro strap to go around. I made the control horns out of 1/8inch light ply, wrapped it with thin fiberglass clothe and soaked with thin CA. The aileron rods were just regular piano wire 4-40? does that sound right? I had it on the bench. The longer rods for the tail were made for carbon fiber. I don't have any current close-up pics of the bottom

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Thank you for a quick reply. I have an other to ask: it is O-K to change the shape of the fuse to look like the Yak and or Extra??? (will kept the wing E&R measurement a same as your drawing ),dose it made any different to flying charatiristic? Thanks in advance.

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Old 09-02-2009, 03:04 PM
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I doubt it will have any drastic changes to the flight characteristic. Changing tail angles, lengths, as well as wing placement will change Knife Edge flight you may find the changes for the better. I look forward to seeing your plane!

Here's a video of a Yak 54 I drew up a few years ago and it's the same basic wingspan and length of the smaller Cap3DX and it flew very much the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uXUA...e=channel_page

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Old 09-02-2009, 03:11 PM
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Thank you for a quick reply. I have an other to ask: it is O-K to change the shape of the fuse to look like the Yak and or Extra??? (will kept the wing E&R measurement a same as your drawing ),dose it made any different to flying charatiristic? Thanks in advance.

Fly
Hahaha, I asked the same question before I built mine....Even though mine looks nothing like a CAP, it also looks nothing like a Yak, the plane I wanted it to look like...I totally made the canopy way too far back on the fuse....It flies like a dream, that really was what mattered. I would say that any shape would be fine, like Jay says...I look forward to seeing another one of Jays Killer Foamie's fly!

.....oh, and this week my Crawler took up so much of my time, I did not fly. I am trying to get her ready for a Comp/Trail Run....

Pieces!

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COOL! Thanks guys. will collect stuffs I need for it and give it a try.

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I doubt it will have any drastic changes to the flight characteristic. Changing tail angles, lengths, as well as wing placement will change Knife Edge flight you may find the changes for the better. I look forward to seeing your plane!

Here's a video of a Yak 54 I drew up a few years ago and it's the same basic wingspan and length of the smaller Cap3DX and it flew very much the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uXUA...e=channel_page

Blessings,

Jay

I liked your retreats when doing the tail touches....LMAO.
Old 09-06-2009, 05:32 PM
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I thought I do sort of a build using the 40" I'm working on. After the foam profile is cut out it's time to start thinking about how it's all going to come together. I started by using my motor with the prop mounted to gauge how big I need to cut the front. For this one it is a 2" square by 1 1/4 inches deep for the park 400 I'm going to mount allowing for an 1/8" light ply firewall. Next is to slot the bodies to fit together like a jigsaw puzzle for strength. I like to leave the front and rear of the horizontal piece intact for strength. I then measured each slot to be 2". I'd go 3" or more for the 51" design. The wing is also slotted in this way leaving the ends uncut for strength. Make sure the spot where the spar goes through is cut out on the vertical fuse and left uncut on the wing!

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Old 09-06-2009, 09:13 PM
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I didn't like how much stab I had so I decided to cut some off. Are you guys getting how much is up to you and won't change too much if you want to draw a different line Just draw a plane with general dimensions Length and width... you'll be good. I hinged all of the surfaces prior to painting and this can take some time to get right. Make sure you peel off the hinge tape if the surface doesn't move freely at this point. Apply Gorilla Glue to the lower fuse at the wing points and set the wing in place. Next apply Gorilla Glue to the top of the wing and down the center of the fuse. Once you have everything lined up put T pins throughout the fuse to hold it until the glue dries. I use 4 clamps to hold the wing to the horizontal fuse with balsa pads so the clamps don't crush the foam. While everything is glued, pinned, and clamped I put the firewall on made of 1/8" balsa. This would be 1/8th inch light ply for the 51" model. I use a 2 1/16" hole saw to make the firewall. GG in place and let everything dry over night.

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Old 09-09-2009, 03:14 PM
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Nice Jay! Looks like way too much work for me(I am lazy!) to cut all those puzzle pieces! Mine seems to be holding fine without the extra steps. I crashed it pretty hard too and had to fix my motor mount and a bent prop adapter. The wings needed some glue too!!! I don't even have any qualms about it not flying after all the glue and repairs, it flew so well before.

Thanks for all the effort you put into giving us this/these plane. I appreciate it!

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Z
Old 09-10-2009, 06:52 PM
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Thanks Z! More to come... I just got busy.

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Old 09-11-2009, 10:47 PM
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OK... I'm back for a bit more I hope. It's been a whirl wind week of attacks on my family[:@]

I painted the 40" with Kyrlon short cuts paint. I'm not impressed with my paint job and furthermore the quality of the job I did. The paint also added 3 ounces of weight to the plane which is horrible for a 3D plane that now is only $4. ( 2 for one out of the 4x8 sheet of foam )

In hind site I'd just leave it Pink, add some ribbons to it, and donate the $12 I spent on the paint to the Susan G Komen foundation for the cure of breast cancer~ http://ww5.komen.org/SiteMap.aspx

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Old 09-12-2009, 07:23 AM
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Dont we get to see it? Im sure its not that bad... come one, we want pictures!

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So, here are the first pics of my attempt at making a half scale version (25.5 in wingspan) of this plane, but with 5mm light plywood. I decided not to use the horizontal fuselage piece to save weight and the ply is surprisingly rigid. I still have to cut out some holes to make it even lighter. I'll then cover it with monokote.

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Now for the pics...

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Old 09-12-2009, 11:44 AM
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Great job Brady[8D] I look forward to more pics and flight report.

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Here's a shot of the John Deere plane.

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Jay~I think it looks pretty good! I decided against painting the entire plane to save weight as well. While loading a battery in Toxie for another run the other day, some random exercising lady commented on my choice of Pink....Lol, After I told her it was the color of the foam insulation, she understood.....Does this mean that every person that doesn't come and talk to me about my pink plane thinks I am a fairy? Ah well....Pink wont make you less of a man unless you have a plate of quiche next to you....So I am good!

Bradya~ Parts look good. I am crossing my fingers that your plane will not fall out of the sky under zero power. It will probably fly fine but it will be more like a pylon racer/sport plane. Hope everything goes together for you nice and easy so we can get a report.....

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The 40" is ready to maiden. I was so tempted to fly it under the street lights but I thought better of it. The wind should be down tomorrow so it should be a go. I'm at 1# 7 ounces which is on the very high end of the park 400 motor so it should be interesting. I'm thinking the 450 or 480 would be better but we'll see. I will post after I fly her.

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Well the 40" flew pretty well. I threw some junk servos on it so that is the only complaint I have with the plane. I tried 2 different batts... 1800mah and 1200mah. With the 1200 it flies better and hover better @ 21 ounce AUW. I think the 1800 would be fine for windier conditions and not much hovering. The pull out power with the 400 is fine with the 1200mah. I was very happy with it though.

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Crushed my plane again 2 days ago when I lost a control rod. Plane broke in 3 separate pieces!!! Glued her back together and strengthened the control points. Flies like a dream still. Even though this foam is not very sturdy in crashes, it sure is easy to fix!

I am now flying a 48" Toxic Pinkie(cut the tips of the wings off) but she still wont fit in the trunk yet....I'll have to crash and remove a bit more every time until it fits! lol...My power to weight ratio keep getting higher as well. This thing is almost too fast for it's own good...

Keep the planes coming. Like to see a few more of these fab-planes built..

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Z,
That's great that see still flies well at 48"s. Your right about it being easy to repair as well. I'm so glad your having with it.

I flew the 40"er twice today at my parents. My Dad asked me," Where are you going to fly it? There's to many trees right here." Well... I flew it right there. I just harriered it around and did a lot of torque rolling and hovering and I did some flying above the trees as well. The 40"er more responsive that the 51" but still a little more sluggish than the 32". My Dad took some pictures so hopefully he'll email them to me and I'll post them. It was fun. I had one time where I bit it into the ground but no damage at all. My Dad couldn't believe it.

God Bless Y'all,

Jay
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Still waiting on those pics Jay......................... Great thread BTW... I'am glad ya logged the info here, so I can go back sometime and play like Z-Man is doing also. Hey Zim..! [8D]


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JM~Nice to see you posting over here. Crash came to visit a few times as well. Jay has some good friends....You still hanging in CA down south of me or ya back in WA? I took my FJ40 Crawler down to Avila beach with me a little while ago and bashed around in Pirates cove(Nude Beach...OPPS!)...Killer rock formations all along the cliffs where the sand ends and the shizzle begins...I wont even comment about the college girls and their hula-hoop contest right in front of me. I felt guilty so of course I paid only attention to me rig.(Now, where did I put that camera for on board video?)

You going to build one or lurk? I love mine. Relaxing when I want it to be and crazy Psycho W.F.O..The Toxic Pinkie lives!

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JM~Nice to see you posting over here. Crash came to visit a few times as well. Jay has some good friends
That is so true! I've never met you guys in person but I still consider y'all great friends!

Here are some of the pics my Dad shot. There were some hair raising moments with the trees but it went well

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Cool pics, thanks for sharing. I am not so good in the tight spaces like that. My plane would have been in pieces or stuck up in the canopy of the trees...

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