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HoverLoW 08-24-2008 08:35 PM

Hacker x AXI x E-flite in a Divo
 
Hi guys.

This afternoon I was trying to fly my Sobré, when my motor (AXI 2212/26 Silver version) started to burn.

I don't know the damage size, but I believe I lost the motor, the speed and the battery.

I am about to start to assembly a Divo to outdoor flights and right now I don't know what motor to get.

My experience is totally with AXI motors and I love it. I am just wondering about to try something new.

I want to stay around the AXI 2208/34 + Jeti 12A wheight and try to get more performance.

So what motor would make me more happy?

- Hacker A20-26M (150W)

RPM/V 1130
Weight 42g (1.48oz) Peak Amps Prop Peak Watts
Shaft Diameter 3.0mm
Battery 3 LiPo / 800-1300mah
Operating Current(Amps) 12 amps
Peak Amps 20
Prop 9x4.7
Peak Watts 150

- E-FLITE Motor outrunner PARK 370 BL Brushless 1360Kv

Type: Brushless Outrunner
Size: Replacement for 280/370
Bearings or Bushings: Bearings
Recommended Prop Range: 8x6 to 10x4.7 2-Cell or 8x3.8 3-Cell
Voltage: 7.2 - 12
RPM/Volt (Kv): 1360 Kv
Resistance (Ri): .10 ohms
Idle Current (Io): 1.00A @ 10V
Shaft Diameter: 3.17mm (1/8 in)
Overall Length: 25mm (1.00 in)
Weight: 45g (1.6 oz)
Overall Diameter: 28mm (1.10 in)
Diameter: 28 mm (1.1 in)
Length: 25 mm (1 in)
Continuous Current: 12A
Maximum Burst Current: 15A (15 sec)
Cells: 6-10 NiCd/NiMh or 2-3S LiPo
Speed Control: 10 - 20 Amp Brushless

- AXI 2208/34

Voltage range 6-10 cells
2-3xLi-Poly
RPM per Volt 1,080 RPM/V
Max. Efficiency 81%
Max. Efficiency Current 4-7 A (>74%)
Max. loading 8 A / 60 s
No load Current / 8V 0,35 A
Internal resistance 260mohm
Dimensions 27,7x26 mm
Shaft Diameter 3,17 mm
Weight 45 g
Recomended model weight 200 - 500 g


If you guys tell me to go for E-flite or Hacker, what speed control and prop should I use with them?




nitro wing 08-24-2008 09:20 PM

RE: Hacker x AXI x E-flite in a Divo
 
I can say that the Eflite 300 is very marginal
The 370 would be ballistic,but will add a bunch of weight,so watch out for added thrust versus weight gain and CG issues.
Used an 18 amp with my 370 and 640- 910 batteries,but it would be fine on a 12 amp I think and a 700-800 battery for the Divo.I had a 910 and the 300 motor and it was still light enough,but hovering was 90%

Andrew86 08-25-2008 11:21 PM

RE: Hacker x AXI x E-flite in a Divo
 
I'd go with the Hacker A20, I'm always impressed with these motors. They very rarely get hot as long as you use the recommended prop and they're very efficient which gives you good flight times. Pair it with any 18A ESC and you'll have yourself a great plane.

I've had a Hacker A20, A30 16M and A30 10 XL and they've all been excellent.

HoverLoW 08-26-2008 12:45 PM

RE: Hacker x AXI x E-flite in a Divo
 
Ok. So I'm thinking to go for the Hacker.

What you guys can say about the Hacker X-20 PRO ESC with a Thunder Power 3S 910mah? It will be a good combo? Light enough for the Divo? A good flight time?

foo 09-01-2008 03:59 PM

RE: Hacker x AXI x E-flite in a Divo
 
I have a divo with a park-300 that will hover at half power and still punch out through the top.I am using e-flites set up in the book.I have wondered about a 370 but the weight worries me and it might be hard on tp-3 cell 730 packs that i have.Want a sobre but they are out of stock.

altavillan 09-01-2008 04:52 PM

RE: Hacker x AXI x E-flite in a Divo
 
No failures to date with Hacker 2- A20-26 and 1 30 size, with Castle Creations Phoenix SC's. My last purchase was a Hacker A30-12L and CC control. I ordered the Castle link also for programing the SC on the computer and I say THAT is a super product.
My foamies weigh 12 to 16 oz (Charger RC) and the prop I use is 10x 4.7 slowflight with the Hacker A20-26. Also I think any battery less than 1100mah is not sufficient for these motors. Lesser mah batteries will die from over use too soon. About a year and a half of flying so far and I fly them a lot. My two 1320 TP's are doing good but the 850 died months ago.

HoverLoW 09-01-2008 09:51 PM

RE: Hacker x AXI x E-flite in a Divo
 

ORIGINAL: altavillan

No failures to date with Hacker 2- A20-26 and 1 30 size, with Castle Creations Phoenix SC's. My last purchase was a Hacker A30-12L and CC control. I ordered the Castle link also for programing the SC on the computer and I say THAT is a super product.
My foamies weigh 12 to 16 oz (Charger RC) and the prop I use is 10x 4.7 slowflight with the Hacker A20-26. Also I think any battery less than 1100mah is not sufficient for these motors. Lesser mah batteries will die from over use too soon. About a year and a half of flying so far and I fly them a lot. My two 1320 TP's are doing good but the 850 died months ago.
Good to hear about your Hacker experience. I have in hands some 1320 batteries, but I don't believe this would be a good choice to Divo. Divo seems to be a heavy foamy and a battery this size can harm the plane. But if a small battery won't be enough to Hacker, maybe it's better to save this mottor to a light plane and go for my old AXI 2212/34. What you think?


ORIGINAL: foo

I have a divo with a park-300 that will hover at half power and still punch out through the top.I am using e-flites set up in the book.I have wondered about a 370 but the weight worries me and it might be hard on tp-3 cell 730 packs that i have.Want a sobre but they are out of stock.
My dream is some day assembly an E-flite foamy with the setup mentioned in manual. It seems to be very good to fly an airplane light like this, but, in my case, I can't try. I don't have any place to indoor flights and the wind is present almost every day in my land. So, I need something a little heay.

I have a Sobre that I retired this weekend. It was the best foamy I ever flew.

I have some moveis of it. I took this movies in the end of my Sobre's life, so they are about crashes and funny stufs, but you can see anyway it's a good plane!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlgByAHjW0A (Sobre's death. It is in portuguese).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC_WvEXVUlw (torque rolling inside my bedroom).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_kO0Pf-gis (hovering inside my garage. I called it "crap", because its conditions. I didn't mean the model is a crap. The model is really good indeed).






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