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Old 05-20-2004, 10:02 PM
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Default Seagull Models Harrier 3D

Anyone seen the new seagull models harrier 3D? Kind of a funky looking plane and for some reason I must have one. Looks like it should rock for 3D flying though. What do you think?
Old 05-21-2004, 08:49 AM
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I am thinking of geting one too. I kind of like it. The Horizon people said that they should be available in about 2 months.
Old 05-21-2004, 04:56 PM
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Best part is the 2 piece, removeable wing. Had mine on order for over a month now.
Old 05-21-2004, 09:10 PM
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Yeah, i really like the two piece wing on a wing tube. To me, at least, gluing wing halves together is a pain in the butt. But it all depends on the airplane, they're not so bad on trainers. What engine are you planning on putting in it. I'm just going to go with a Saito 100.
Old 05-21-2004, 09:27 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

I'm also going with the saito 100!!

I'm going to retire my ucan 46, before I destroy it!!

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Old 05-21-2004, 10:24 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

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Yeah, i really like the two piece wing on a wing tube. To me, at least, gluing wing halves together is a pain in the butt. But it all depends on the airplane, they're not so bad on trainers. What engine are you planning on putting in it. I'm just going to go with a Saito 100.
2 piece on a tube makes for easy transport & storage as well.

I've got a pumped O.S.120III layin' around here somewhere...wonder if I could CG the tank?
Old 05-22-2004, 10:55 AM
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Sounds like a deal. The O.S. pump may be a little heavy but should provide enough power, plus it's already paid for. I'm thinking about just putting some Futaba S3004's on 6 volts in mine but may get faster servos like Hitec 635's. What about everyone else?
Old 05-22-2004, 01:30 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

must have one to . its a pretty as the u can do . ys 110 . didn't know it had a plug in wing so thats very cool. oh servos jr 8231 on ailerons and elevators . 8411 on rudder.
Old 05-22-2004, 07:31 PM
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I've decided that my radio is going to be the Futaba micro receiver in my Tiger 2, Hitec 635's on ailerons and elevator and a Hitec 5625 on rudder. 4.8 volt system. And a Saito 100 for power...
Old 05-22-2004, 11:33 PM
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Has anyone noticed that the fuselage resembles a BalsaNova? The Harrier should be a knife-edging monster!

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Old 05-23-2004, 11:52 AM
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What prop would you use with a Saito 100 and this plane, an APC 15X4W? Are there any props with a 6 inch pitch that you could use?
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Old 05-23-2004, 12:29 PM
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yea apc 15/4 wide . you could use a 15/6 but it wouldn't be as good on that type plane. hope theres room for a 17/4 wide
Old 07-05-2004, 09:05 PM
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Is anybody can post the flight report or its still back ordered????
Thanks
Old 07-05-2004, 11:48 PM
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I'm about to order one from Singapore hobby just waiting for their reply. I've got OS120 Surpass sitting on the shelf. I think it's a bit lighter than the same engine with the pump. Just wonder how would the CG work out since I can't shift the tank much.
Old 07-06-2004, 02:16 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

I thought this plane looked nice as well. I am interested to hear flight reports when they are available.
Old 07-06-2004, 07:56 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

I seen one at the Toledo show and it is one of the most awesome looking planes i have seen . The tail section is really different very tall , and i wanted one the minute i put eyes on it. I have heard from Horizon they are suppose to arrive July 7 , i dont know if they meant shipping them at that time or arrival at the distrubutor.?? Anyway i have on on order from my local hobby store here in Central Iowa. Price is suppose to be around 167.00 Going with a new YS 110 i just have sitting around waiting for the right plane.
Old 08-13-2004, 05:13 AM
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best plane I have so far. put saito 120 in it. hovers on 1/3 throttle. stable in air and harriers are a natural for this plane. just my two cents

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Old 08-13-2004, 01:02 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

Same here. This plane is great. It's one of the best I've ever flown.
Old 08-13-2004, 03:31 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

Questions for the guys who own the plane: I have MVVS 77 w/ tuned pipe. Would this engine be enough to make that plane a 3D machine? Also, does the wing come as two pieces? Thank you.
Old 08-14-2004, 11:59 AM
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Just back from my first hour of flying with the Harrier 3D, flies like a dream. Powered by a SC90FS and has more than enough power turning a 14x6 on straight fuel and it hovers at half throttle. You know why its called a harrier when you come into land even on tickover it just hangs there, good for verical landings into a light breeze. I needed to put 20gms of lead on the back to get correct C of G even though battery was right back at rear of canopy.

Take care you dont drop the alan key when you tighten up the canopy it makes holes in the covering . As I saved the transparent vinyl surrounding the decals, I had an instant invisible mending kit just by using a compass cutter, so soon back to looking good.


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Old 08-14-2004, 01:33 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

does the wing come as two pieces?
Yes ....Each wing half slides onto 2 ali tubes. the wings are fastened by nylon screws from inside the fuselage.

Quick neat strong and easy to transport


John
Old 08-29-2004, 11:03 PM
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The only bad [:@] thing I can say about the plane is that it’s real hard to see other then that with a OS 91fx and a jet muffler http://www.jettengineering.com 15x6 at 10,600 rpm trash the cowl and pants, 800ma battery in the tail by the servos, all stock 811 Jr digital servos came out 7 lb 12oz. Also modify all that wire crap in the tail I used a cheap $7 pull pull system to loss some weight. I’m in Colorado at 6,200 feet and this thing flies great harrier’s right to a hover real smooth with about ¼ to ½ throttle has power to spare pulling out. I’m sure at sea level this thing would be even better.
Old 09-01-2004, 06:54 AM
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Sounds like a real plan-
I am going to give mine an enema when it gets here.
The recommended engines simply don't work here if the weight does not do a serious change.
A friend loaned me a new Saito 100 four stroke -which will get all the nitro it can tolerate.
Aurora is at 6200?
wow
at 4500 here - on a hot day we see over 7000 density altitude - you must really get some high numbers.
Old 09-02-2004, 06:42 AM
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Im right near sea level, a siato 100 on 15% works good. It will pull out of a hover but its not very quick about it. to be fair the 100 only has about 6 flights on it and is still breaking in. I am running a 16/4W APC. And the visibilty is pretty bad, clear blue just kinda disappears. other than that its a great flyer. never had a plane that can fly this slow on the wing.
Old 09-09-2004, 08:07 PM
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Default RE: Seagull Models Harrier 3D

Give me your opinion on my projected setup:

Saito 150 (from a retired plane)
Futaba 3305 MG (122 oz/in at 6v) all around
4-40 pushrods replacing everything
Pull-Pull rudder
Plane should arrive on Wed or so of next week.

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