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Old 10-05-2002, 07:16 PM
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

Well, it was either retire the old bird....or freshen
it up....I chose the later. Put a whole new nose on
it, took out the beloved O.S. .60FSR, and stuffed in
a new O.S. .61RF FIRE motor to see what she could
do.
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Old 10-05-2002, 07:19 PM
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Default Old pattern planes never die.

Took a week for the restore, but it was worth it.
Had to jack up the nose wheel, to clear the 12''
prop.
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Old 10-05-2002, 07:21 PM
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Default Still looks pretty sleek.

Put a new computer radio in it.
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Old 10-05-2002, 07:24 PM
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Default Love these motors.

Turns a 12-8 Zinger at 11,400....just what the Macs
pipe chart said it would. Didn't have to touch the
idle screw.
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Old 10-05-2002, 07:27 PM
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Default Yes it is hard to see, blue and white.

Don't take your eyes off this one in flight !!!
But it is a lot "louder" under-side.....

Can't wait till tomorrow.....
( pic got digital )
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Old 10-08-2002, 06:50 AM
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

Nice! Where did you get that OS? I didn't think they'd made any RE's since the Hanno Special.

I've got a Bridi Killer Kaos, very similar to yours. I love flying it. A classic sport pattern plane.

Jon
Old 10-08-2002, 01:51 PM
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Default Hi jon....your "Killer" looks sweet.

I got the engines off E-bay....that one had been bench
run and came with a spare liner and piston. And two
others pristine. All with headers, and pipes. The
FSR was faster, but the RF's pull more prop and have
a better carb.

I was just about to put-up a "Killer" Kaos but I gave
the 'Oldie" a re-fit, I got two killers in the pile. Bridi
still has a lot of Killers in stock. I like the Killer cause
it's a tail-dragger, is narrower, sleeker, and better
looking than the 'ol Kaos, or Super Kaos. Pretty much
the same wing ( no improvement needed there ). I'll
have to flip a coin on the Killer between an FSR or
a Rossi .60. I recently rebuilt my old FSR.

How long you been flyin' the "Killer' ? Whatcha got
in it for power ? What a great all around plane, huh ?

Dave.
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Old 10-08-2002, 03:21 PM
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

Finally got around to posting pics.

Here's my Kaos:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/sh...=12260&thumb=1

Bought it from Joe Bridi 4-5 years ago. Sweet plane.
Old 10-08-2002, 04:44 PM
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Default Pics look good, jon....

Great job on that scratch-built. Did you mount that engine
up-right on the "killer" for balance reasons ?
Here's my latest plane up, a Bridi Big Dirty Birdy. Still has
a couple bugs in it, Super tiger 3000, w/retracts.
78" wing, and 78" long, about 10-12 lbs.
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Old 10-08-2002, 09:00 PM
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

The Kaos looks great!

Reminds me of the one I use to have. I rebuilt it too after it had sat in the hanger for a long time.

Flew great, until the wing came off.......

Do you know what you have when the wing comes off in flight.....

You have two things....

1. A floating leaf (that's the wing)
2. A rocket going the wrong way (that's the fus.)

Needless to say, the wing survived unscratched, but the fus. well..., that's another story.
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Default Re: Pics look good, jon....

Originally posted by Flyboy Dave
Great job on that scratch-built. Did you mount that engine
up-right on the "killer" for balance reasons ?
Here's my latest plane up, a Bridi Big Dirty Birdy. Still has
a couple bugs in it, Super tiger 3000, w/retracts.
78" wing, and 78" long, about 10-12 lbs.
Read carefully, it wasn't me who scratchbuilt it, I bought it used

I mounted the engine that way mainly for simplicity of operation. The alternative of upside down mounting didn't look nice either, and a 45 deg. mounting would require a round engine mount I didn't have at hand at the time, so there I was with an upright engine

The Big DB is very nice! Wouldn't mind one myself but I'm worried I'll end up weighing too much so I'm not allowed to compete with it.
Does it really need as much as an ST 3000 ? Do you think an ST 23 or OS 140, even a 2-stroke 120 would suffice?

BTW, what's the covering on the wing? looks almost like a composite material
Old 10-09-2002, 07:36 AM
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Default Gravity is not always your friend....

latch66....sorry 'bout the loss of the Kaos, but i have
to admit....I did get a chuckle out of the "lawn-dart"
syndrome you described. Been there, done that. I
never lost a wing, but the loss of elevator produces
the same result. :stupid:

I must say that the "re-hab" of the ol' Super Kaos
was well worth the effort, although not as fast, the
verticle performance was outstanding to say the
least.

I got it "dialed" on the third flight. As with any
non-pumped upright engine, they lean out in a tight
turn or pullin' straight up. So I set her a little fat, and
when i pulled her straight up....she kinda' kicked into
passin' gear ( full power ) and got real small, real fast
( didn't seem to slow down a bit ) and I had to chop
power, and spin her all the way back down. I've been
wantin' a plane to go verticle like that all my life.

I know it may not be much to many....but It's a hoot
for me, and I'm pretty old and obselete myself.

YEAH-BABY !!!
Dave.
Old 10-09-2002, 08:16 AM
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Default Jon....not really....

"Does it really need as much as an ST 3000 ? Do you think an ST 23 or OS 140, even a 2-stroke 120 would suffice "?.

Joe called for a 1.40 rear-piper for the rig. It's got so much wing
on it, it would probably do OK with a good 1.20 2-stroke. I
put in the retracts, and stuffed in the 1.80, cause that's what I had.

I did the control surfaces in Kevlar, and had all carbon fiber for
the fuse....but painted it instead. Please excuse the Polka Dots,
the bottom of the wing is done in red/white checkerboard.

Just tryin' to have a little fun, and experiment with some
different combinations. What the heck....

Haven't had the chance to really "wring her out yet", but she
might just turn out to be " a good one ".
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Old 10-09-2002, 08:23 AM
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

Sweet!!!
Old 10-11-2002, 02:55 AM
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Default Hangin' on by a thread....

I had the Big Dirty Birdy up a few weeks ago on
it's third flight....only did 2 laps, hadn't even put
the gear up. Saw something come off the plane.
Yelled to my friend...'what was that"? , but he
wasn't watching. About 20 seconds later....I see
something else come off the plane !!!! 10 seconds
later....the engine quits. No problem. I get her
down and stopped about 100 feet from me. As I
approach the plane, I notice the muffler is gone.

That's why the engine quit. ( didn't lock-tite the
muffler flange ). As I get closer, I notice something
hanging down in front of the wing, almost touching
the ground. I can't believe it....but yes it is the
BATTERY PACK hanging out of the plane !!! Thanks
to 3 layers of plain 'ol black electrical tape the big
battery pack didn't fall straight out. The glue on
the bottom tank hatch must have been old, and
dried, I guess. ( plus I had kinda' overstuffed the
compartment with foam ), and it popped out !

I picked her up, and carried her back to the pits
( thankin' my lucky stars ), and when I set the
plane in the rack....I noticed this....see pic.

The only thing still holding the tail on was two
pieces of tri-angle stock, the 3/32" bottom sheeting,
some paint, and the top hatch....held on by 3
screws. Yep, on more roll or loop, and I would be
postin' this in the CRASH FORUM !
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Old 10-11-2002, 02:59 AM
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Default Yes, you guessed it....

....the other side has the same crack, all the way
through !

My bud "AirGar" said the R/C Gods must really be
smilin' on you today. I agread .
Gonna have to move the servos forward, and "glass"
the rear end, and put a stronger servo in for the
rudder.
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Old 10-11-2002, 03:39 AM
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Default Mucho lateral directo....

....yep, it's a pretty "big-un".
Need the 115 oz-in. servo for this puppy.
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

I was flying the Killer Kaos till a dead short between the ears and the ground put the plane in the scrap heap. I was going to buy another one till I saw that Joe Bridi has a 80in wing span Big Kaos. Is the wing built on a wing jig? Would a ys140L be a good engine for it? and does the larger plane fly as good as the 60 size Killer Kaos? I would like to hear from you guys that fly the big ones. I believe that Bridi has the Killer Kaos for $170 and the Big Kaos for $180. Any information that you have for me, I would appreciate.
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

Nothing flies like a Kaos. It is a timeless classic.

I have a 40-size that I built ten years ago; it's semi-retired now, but only needs a flight pack to fly again. After over 300 flights, it is in bad need of recovering.

But my real treasure is an early 70s-vintage Bridi kit, white box with the orange label, that a friend found for me at a swap shop. The plans were brittle and useless, but the wood is still good and RCM still sells the plans.

I don't have the time that such a classic deserves to build it now, but it will be the first "retirement project" on the board when I pull the pin in a couple of years. I'm going against tradition and putting a YS 63 four stroke in it. That jewel is only as large as an OS 46, but weighs about the same as a Veco 61.

Long live the Super Kaos....

Steve
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Default Tail Time.....

....the nose job came out great, but I noticed the
hinges were getting weak on the rudder. Some oil
had worked it's way in there over time, and it was
a little "soggy".

Time for one more surgery.....
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

I cut out the verticle stab, and made a new stab and
rudder....shortened the stab just a little, and added
some more fin.
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Old 12-06-2002, 06:07 PM
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Default Super Kaos Lives On.

It came out lookin' ok. Gotta put the control rods
back in....and "let her rip".

The 'ol Super Kaos lives on !!!

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Default RE: Super Kaos Lives On.

Right On Dave, if your still on, noticed this is an old thread!!!
I have a Super Kaos with a Fox Eagle 1. What a great airplane!

I inherited my Super Koas; was the last plane my grandfather built...some say I should not fly it. I think he would have wanted me to.
I call it my holiday plane, any weekend that a holiday falls near, then ok to fly. I did take a lots of pictures of it, just in case [&:].
I asked a couple of guys at the club; should I change the muffler - very loud! The all looked at me and said "NO, do not change a thing, let her fly as she is and was.

Here is a couple of pictures of it: [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/galleryItem.cfm?itemID=117361&dummy=3163.4928525103305&opener=/community/profile.cfm%3Fsection%3Dgallery%26memid%3D224806]Photo1[/link] [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/galleryItem.cfm?itemID=117362&dummy=9519.323064915437&opener=/community/profile.cfm%3Fsection%3Dgallery%26memid%3D224806]Photo2[/link] [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/gallery/galleryItem.cfm?itemID=117642&dummy=5928.481225499121&opener=/community/profile.cfm%3Fsection%3Dgallery%26memid%3D224806]Photo3[/link]

Take care, and good luck with your Kaos.
Dave
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Default RE: Super Kaos Lives On.

I remeber those mufflers. My dad used to fly them back in the day. They are loud, but I thing the sound badass. Especially when you throttle them bac to idle in the air. That gargling sound is priceless.

Chris
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Default RE: Super Kaos Lives On.

Right on, Dave....

....your Grandfather did a wonderfull job on the Kaos. [sm=thumbup.gif]

Looking at it....I should have duplicated the tail feather like original when
I re-did the tail feathers....ok well. I'll do better next time.

Enjoy your plane. All planes have an expiration date, and as long as you got
the enjoyment out of the plane, your Grandfather will be happy and proud.

FBD.

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