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Old 08-02-2005, 08:49 PM
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The tail wheel sucks on the 90 not sure about the 40.
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haha u all spent money on yours. i got mine for free on a pilots draw at a fun fly. im throwing it together and should have it done by the end of the week. it is a very nice arf for free
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The tailwheel is the same design on the 46 as the 90, but a little lighter duty. I like it a lot, but I am also easy on it. I like the 90 one too, but then I guess that's just me. It's light, and it is strong enough for what it's supposed to do. You'll have to decide for yourself, but I would at least try it. That's all I have to say about that.
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I have mine now, packed well,and looks like a quick build. How long did your take? Just have to get remote glow igniter.
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wow super D you actually still have a gp fun one!! lol that was one of my dads first planes that thing was a ball to fly!!

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Old 08-05-2005, 04:45 PM
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I have mine now, packed well,and looks like a quick build. How long did your take? Just have to get remote glow igniter.

!0 hours, and I don't use a remote glow igniter. My set up makes it easy to get to the head. K&B 61, mounted inverted, no problems.
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How many elevator servos does this plane require? Is a YS 63S pretty good in it?
Old 08-07-2005, 03:42 PM
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Dual elevator servos, for a total of 6. I used 3004's accept for a 9001 in the rudder. Mines not totally together I just need to put the horns and push rods on.

I would imagine the YS 63 would work fine, I almost bought that engine. However serveral folks are saying the Saito 82 will turn a 15X4. I havethe saito on my KAT40 and it is awesome. Check out the specs, great power to weigh ratio.

If any one knows where I can get some carbon fiber gear for this plan let me know please. The aluminum is suffiecient I just perfer CF
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hey not24 how do you like your K&B 61? i have the 28 and 45 sporster and both run perfect no flaws!!! I LOVE THESE MOTORS!!! then again anyone i knew that had one always had problems with them and they gave them to me and my dad. i know the secret to get them to run now lol

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hey not24 how do you like your K&B 61? i have the 28 and 45 sporster and both run perfect no flaws!!! I LOVE THESE MOTORS!!! then again anyone i knew that had one always had problems with them and they gave them to me and my dad. i know the secret to get them to run now lol

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I love my K&B's. I have two that are identical, except for the muffler. They both have Perry carbs. The one on the Harrier has a new carb, and the other one is old and needs to be replaced. I have only owned one other 60, and that was an Enya. It was much heavier, but about the same power. That's why I like these,they are light and swing a 12-6 prop very well. With the Perry carbs, the throttle response is instantaneous, which is great for 3D. I wouldn't trade them for anything. The best part is that I got both for $30.
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i know what you mean i have the stock carbs on both of mine (the 28 and 45), but i've figured out that if you remove the baffle on the muffler and put a back pressure tap on the muffler, that there amazing engines!! I have more power and the things run gorgous!!!!!! (plus there still quiet!!) lol lots of people look at me sideways when i say im running a K&B 28 in my mini 3d its funny to suprise people, mine are the K&B sporsters from the late 80's-early 90's.

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So no one has put a 91 on this plane yet. Hard to beleive. People are putting Saito 1.00s on the U Can Do 46, figured I woudl atleast see info on a 90 size 4S. I saw one person was thinking about it. I think the Harrier 90 would be too big for a 91 4s, but the 46 is a little light. As long as you dont go full power, cept pulling out of a hover, would it be ok.
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From what i can tell the plane has no built in right thrust. How much is everyone adding. So far I have 2-3mm of washers under the left bearer but feel I may need even more as the tracking is definetely off to the left a little. Also, whats everyone balancing theres at, I'm currently at about 160mm and working back even more. Lots of lead on the tail so far and I have a Saito 82 up front!
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I have a double stack of washers under the left mount as well. This gives a noticeable right cant to the engine, but like you said, it still feels like it could use more at times. I wonder if right thrust is like elevator trim, meaning is it possible to get the thrust direction correct for all airspeeds, power settings and pitch attitudes. Seems to me that sometimes I need left rudder, and sometimes I need right, depending on what I'm doing. I think my cg is at 170 mm, but I haven't measured it lately. All I know is that it flies nice and lands really well.

In my opinion, for those of you who want to really let this plane rip up the sky with ease, put a tower 75 on it. That engine is lighter than a 61, but almost as powerful as a 91. The 91's are just too heavy. I suppose you could whack 3" off the nose and put on on it. You would just barely have room for the fuel tank if you did so. Personally, I think the plane is very fragile and easy to break. You would be better suited to going with micro servos and a nice 50 OS.
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Ah, glad to hear you're cofg is further back. Someone said they were using the standard 140-150mm with no problems but I started with that and almost crashed the plane! It really handled badly. I think I'll go back to 170mm and see how we go. I'm considering getting the bigger Harrier aswell for a Saito 100 I have going spare. Will be interesting to compare the two.
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My H46 with a Saito 82 in the nose originally had the CG around 120mm. It flew quit nice at that CG, but I wanted know if it would improve with the CG further back. I built a custom balance stand so I could check the CG accurately with no guesswork. By building a custom battery box behind the radio compartment, putting in a much heavier battery and adding lead to the tail, I finally got the CG back to 150mm. I didn't care for it there. The airplane started getting squirilly, with no improvement in any manuever. I finally settled on 140mm, the airplane settled down to the point that I can do a full elevator loop in high rate without snapping. I think I will keep it there, as it does everything well at that CG.
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Don't quote me on that 170mm! It could be 150mm. All I know is that I added no weight, and it balanced at the rear of the recommended range. Still takes a tad of down while inverted, but it doesn't balloon on landings. Perfect! And it does all the moves just like it's supposed to.
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I absolutely love how mine flys inverted.......hadly any imput needed. I am running my cg at 150 which is the back limit they recommend for cg. I have noticed just like not24 said that the plane has a strange tendancy to seem to need diffrent trim settings at different times in flight. I usually start off with one extra click up elevator when the tank is full and as the tank burns full off I have to add a click of down otherwise it wants to climb. As far as the thrust I have had mine to it too but it seemed like there was a pretty strong cross wind on days i noticed it and when there wasnt much cross wind it wasnt too noticable......I just figured that with the very tall profile of the back of the fuselage that it was crabbing.
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I fixed my harrier as far as being able to see which side is up. I need to make my ailerons a different color but its a start.
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i love this thing. flew it for the first time the other day. has anyone else ad a problem of the wing bolts vibrating out
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i love this thing. flew it for the first time the other day. has anyone else ad a problem of the wing bolts vibrating out
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No also. Check the balance on your prop and make sure the bolts are as tight as you can get them with your fingers.
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I had both wing bolts vibrate out of one side. The wing seperated from the fuse about 6" and the only thing that held it on was the servo extension![X(] Good thing I use shrink tubing to secure the servo connectors.
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I had both wing bolts vibrate out of one side. The wing seperated from the fuse about 6" and the only thing that held it on was the servo extension![X(] Good thing I use shrink tubing to secure the servo connectors.
Darn good thing!
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Default RE: Harrier 46 all right!

I just got one of these today. I've been flying the funtanna 40 for the past year. With the funtanna I can hover and tork roll all day. I hope this one will be as good. I had a evo 61 in the funtanna with a pitts muffler. In the Harrier I'll have the saito 82..

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