Great planes ultimate 160
08-07-2006, 07:22 AM
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Thanks for the info Bill.
The only problem I have with the Ulty is feeling the stall.
I was doing some curcuits around the feild in a harrier, it is unbeleiveable how steady it is, and as I was making a turn it just fell. I was only about 20' high. Jammed the stick, Which with thoes short wings it about rolled, got foward motion just inches off the beans and still had to be very delicate on the sticks till the air speed comes back and just cleared the tree line. Adreniline is the best drug ever
The only problem I have with the Ulty is feeling the stall.
I was doing some curcuits around the feild in a harrier, it is unbeleiveable how steady it is, and as I was making a turn it just fell. I was only about 20' high. Jammed the stick, Which with thoes short wings it about rolled, got foward motion just inches off the beans and still had to be very delicate on the sticks till the air speed comes back and just cleared the tree line. Adreniline is the best drug ever
08-07-2006, 08:21 AM
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never ever use ca on flight control surface the tensile strend is too low, allways use a good quality 30 minutes 2 part epoxy.
08-07-2006, 08:23 AM
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Eric,
I'm not good at harriers so it's not uncommon for me to have quite a bit of forward motion so that is something I have run into on the Ultimate. When I flrist flew mine, I had a hard time getting it to stall up high as I had my idle switch set to high. Once I went back to "normal" idle I found the stall to be quite sudden but once you learn where it is, it's quite predictable.
The Cap on the other hand does great harriers due to the slight amount of dehidral (i guess that helps it) It does require just a touch of spoilerons but not much but then again I have a bit more forward motion than most. I've just completed my trim flights and since day one it has not needed any trim at all on the trim tabs. All I ever added was a touch of right thrust and shaved about 1/16th of an inch off the back of the wing saddle to remove the pitch coupling it had. I did the first really low/high AOA KE passes this past weekend with it and oh did it look sweet.
I'm not good at harriers so it's not uncommon for me to have quite a bit of forward motion so that is something I have run into on the Ultimate. When I flrist flew mine, I had a hard time getting it to stall up high as I had my idle switch set to high. Once I went back to "normal" idle I found the stall to be quite sudden but once you learn where it is, it's quite predictable.
The Cap on the other hand does great harriers due to the slight amount of dehidral (i guess that helps it) It does require just a touch of spoilerons but not much but then again I have a bit more forward motion than most. I've just completed my trim flights and since day one it has not needed any trim at all on the trim tabs. All I ever added was a touch of right thrust and shaved about 1/16th of an inch off the back of the wing saddle to remove the pitch coupling it had. I did the first really low/high AOA KE passes this past weekend with it and oh did it look sweet.
08-07-2006, 08:30 AM
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ORIGINAL: fishdeth
Dang Bill... now I feel responsible for your loss.
If I had kept my mouth shut, maybe you would have been lazy like me and not finished her, taking you out of that whole scenerio?
I haven't even had my 2nd flight with mine yet, but I can appreciate your loss.
Or as a very famous "Bubba" once said.... "Ah feel youwr piane"
Seriously sad,
Jim
Dang Bill... now I feel responsible for your loss.
If I had kept my mouth shut, maybe you would have been lazy like me and not finished her, taking you out of that whole scenerio?
I haven't even had my 2nd flight with mine yet, but I can appreciate your loss.
Or as a very famous "Bubba" once said.... "Ah feel youwr piane"
Seriously sad,
Jim
Jim,
I was not your fault but if you feel really bad, I'll take a whole new set of servos
I'm just kidding. 
08-07-2006, 08:31 AM
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Sorry to hear abaut you lost, the I am sorry don't fix nothing, I hope he replace you plane, you are very nice, I will send it a bill of everithing that got damage, you are a real gentelman.
08-07-2006, 08:40 AM
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Maxun,
Thanks for the compliments. I never asked him to replace the plane, he offered and I argued a bit saying it was one of those things but then just let him do what he wanted. I wanted to go over and do to him what he did to my plane at first but I never let that show. I did tell him later when he called with the information on ordering a new one that I wanted to just beat the crap out of him. He figured I was going to do that anyway so he was prepared. All is well and good, I just checked Tower and it is being "picked". I'll probably see it early next week.
Guess I have to order some more "bling" for it
Thanks for the compliments. I never asked him to replace the plane, he offered and I argued a bit saying it was one of those things but then just let him do what he wanted. I wanted to go over and do to him what he did to my plane at first but I never let that show. I did tell him later when he called with the information on ordering a new one that I wanted to just beat the crap out of him. He figured I was going to do that anyway so he was prepared. All is well and good, I just checked Tower and it is being "picked". I'll probably see it early next week.
Guess I have to order some more "bling" for it
08-07-2006, 09:35 AM
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I saw one of these last weekend turn the 22X8 PT prop that was on my DA50 very well on a test stand. My bet is this would be a great engine on this plane. I'm not fond of not having a choke though. The stock muffler seems a bit loud also but the price is definitely right and I hear these guys are great to work with
08-07-2006, 01:42 PM
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Thanks man!!! Thought if anyone knew.. bubba would! I really like my Brillelli.. and seriously contemplating putting it in the Ulti soon if I can't get my engine problems cured soon!!! I'd rather have the Christen Eagle sit than the Ultimate.
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I saw one of these last weekend turn the 22X8 PT prop that was on my DA50 very well on a test stand. My bet is this would be a great engine on this plane. I'm not fond of not having a choke though. The stock muffler seems a bit loud also but the price is definitely right and I hear these guys are great to work with
I saw one of these last weekend turn the 22X8 PT prop that was on my DA50 very well on a test stand. My bet is this would be a great engine on this plane. I'm not fond of not having a choke though. The stock muffler seems a bit loud also but the price is definitely right and I hear these guys are great to work with
08-07-2006, 05:03 PM
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I hate the color scheme for this plane, especially the tacky gold trim.
I hate the color scheme for this plane, especially the tacky gold trim.
I Love this one for its Patriotic Colors !
Right Bob ?
Jim
08-07-2006, 06:32 PM
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I didn't like the gold trim at first too, but it really grew on me. I think it is a really classic scheme, nice and clean. A buddy of mine is cutting me a gold DA logo for the top of the cowl that matches the gold trim. It is a nice gold, not too gaudy, and there isn't too much of it. Did anyone else notice that this plane looks bigger in the air then on the ground? I don't know why, but even other guys at the field said it really made a big presence in the air.
08-07-2006, 07:34 PM
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Sorry for lost Bubba[
]--but is it me or does it seem like these planes have a HEX on them or summthin'. It seems once you get them set up the way you like,they crashed due to no fault of the pilot ie.radio or engine problems;other planes crashing into them;servos go out inexplicibly or whatever else the reason
Guys at my previous field are on their second one with measured apprehensions. Just seem strange too me[&o]
]--but is it me or does it seem like these planes have a HEX on them or summthin'. It seems once you get them set up the way you like,they crashed due to no fault of the pilot ie.radio or engine problems;other planes crashing into them;servos go out inexplicibly or whatever else the reason Guys at my previous field are on their second one with measured apprehensions. Just seem strange too me[&o]
08-07-2006, 07:42 PM
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ORIGINAL: LonestarMan
Sorry for lost Bubba[]--but is it me or does it seem like these planes have a HEX on them or summthin'. It seems once you get them set up the way you like,they crashed due to no fault of the pilot ie.radio or engine problems;other planes crashing into them;servos go out inexplicibly or whatever else the reason Guys at my previous field are on their second one with measured apprehensions. Just seem strange too me[&o]
Sorry for lost Bubba[
]--but is it me or does it seem like these planes have a HEX on them or summthin'. It seems once you get them set up the way you like,they crashed due to no fault of the pilot ie.radio or engine problems;other planes crashing into them;servos go out inexplicibly or whatever else the reason Guys at my previous field are on their second one with measured apprehensions. Just seem strange too me[&o]
At first I thought the same thing but after well over 150 flights and 100 of them really hammering the heck out of mine, I thought for sure a case of dumb thumbs would take mine out. I can close a few times, landed, cleaned out my underwear, chain smoked for a while then went right back at it.
It's always your best planes that have this issue, it's like having a brand new car, you park it way out in the parking lot where no one else usually parks and you come out and find door dents and scratches.
Wow, I just realized that there are people saying how sorry they are about what happened that I have never seen post in here before now. I'm flattered by that and all of you for saying how sorry you all are. You cannot see in these mere words just how great that makes me feel.
Thanks everyone
08-07-2006, 08:40 PM
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ORIGINAL: flyeng
Man I like that bling. Maudib, how can I get some?
Man I like that bling. Maudib, how can I get some?
08-07-2006, 10:54 PM
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bubbagates...I'm also sorry to hear about your loss. I can tell by your posts that you love Ultimates...especially that Ultimate.
But.......be sure you take it all in stride. It's part of the hobby to lose airplanes. I can tell by your comments that you know in your heart the guy didn't mean to hit you. Take it easy on him. He may "grow up" to be a good RC pilot someday.
Like my wife said to me after our son totaled my Corvette. "Aren't we LUCKY, nobody was hurt?!" Gag me. I'm out a beautiful car and we're LUCKY! Well, after I thought about it all I could do was "count my blessings". We are lucky. We are ALL lucky to take part in this hobby. We were all there once, not able to fly very well. I'm just glad I didn't hit anybody in the beginning. Would have been rough.
Sorry about the soapbox.....
Thanks
Barry
08-08-2006, 01:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: aerobob
If you hate the color scheme of an ARF, **** WHY **** would you buy it?
If you hate the color scheme of an ARF, **** WHY **** would you buy it?
Maudib, your plane looks much better than what GP did!
08-08-2006, 07:00 AM
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Barry,
Yea I was over it the next day to a good degree. Yep, I'm still a bit bummed because she was a great plane, but as I said way earlier in this thread that if I ever lost it, it would get replaced and that is exactly what I have done, even if he would have not paid for it I would have got another, just not as quick.
I understand about counting your blessings, been there, done that more than once and none of it had anything to do with RC
Anyway, I'm not sure if the gold trim was actually changed to vinyl or something else, but on my first one, it appears to be just Monokote so given a little time and patience, it could be removed.
Yea I was over it the next day to a good degree. Yep, I'm still a bit bummed because she was a great plane, but as I said way earlier in this thread that if I ever lost it, it would get replaced and that is exactly what I have done, even if he would have not paid for it I would have got another, just not as quick.
I understand about counting your blessings, been there, done that more than once and none of it had anything to do with RC
Anyway, I'm not sure if the gold trim was actually changed to vinyl or something else, but on my first one, it appears to be just Monokote so given a little time and patience, it could be removed.
08-08-2006, 07:21 AM
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Yes it's easily stripped from the fuse... but it's paint on the cowl... Would need to be masked and painted... but we're talking 30 minutes of work...
Funny, I too wasn't real keen on the gold stripe... seemed to date it... btu after I blinged the wings/stabs/logos, I never mnoticed the gold stripe again.
A person could bling those too, paint white over the gold on the cowl, and a custom bling something or other cut to meet the stripe... like an eagles head, or swoosh...
Something down and dirty to give youi an idea...
Funny, I too wasn't real keen on the gold stripe... seemed to date it... btu after I blinged the wings/stabs/logos, I never mnoticed the gold stripe again.
A person could bling those too, paint white over the gold on the cowl, and a custom bling something or other cut to meet the stripe... like an eagles head, or swoosh...
Something down and dirty to give youi an idea...
