Saito 125 anybody? Finnaly coming are way
11-11-2005, 11:51 PM
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Saito 125 anybody? Finnaly coming are way
Iv been waiting for this motor for awhile now, Guess its time to start on my showtime finnaly
I Honestly think this will be the best motor out there for the Showtime
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...rodID=SAIE125A
I Honestly think this will be the best motor out there for the Showtime
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...rodID=SAIE125A
11-11-2005, 11:59 PM
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this will be the best engine for a lot of planes, expecially my 8.5lb vf edge. i wished for this engine just before it came to be and then i was granted my wish
11-12-2005, 12:02 AM
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I had heard rumors about this motor about 5 months ago, i was starting to get really upset because I thought it was just a BS rumor, So last night i was bickering at my buddy about how i was just gonna say screw it and get the YS110 then i find this TODAY
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this will be the best engine for a lot of planes, expecially my 8.5lb vf edge. i wished for this engine just before it came to be and then i was granted my wish
this will be the best engine for a lot of planes, expecially my 8.5lb vf edge. i wished for this engine just before it came to be and then i was granted my wish
11-12-2005, 12:07 AM
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dang, if i knew you hadnt heard yet, i would have e-mailed ya, i heard about 2 weeks ago, as it was also listed on the horizon site.
this is truley a great moment in time for the rc engine world, i cant wait[8D]
and only 24.6 oz, man this thing will go in a lot of planes that will need longer main gear for the prop
this is truley a great moment in time for the rc engine world, i cant wait[8D]
and only 24.6 oz, man this thing will go in a lot of planes that will need longer main gear for the prop
11-12-2005, 05:49 PM
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For many of us that love their Saito engines, this should be the engine we always wanted but never had. The planes that fly well with the Saito 100 but need just that extra push to do 3/D . The planes we couldn't afford to put Saito 120s in because of the weight factor. What would you like to see them produce next ? Maybe a 1.75 in a 1.50 case ? WHAMO !!!
11-12-2005, 10:39 PM
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LOL I do agree this motor will be perfect for 90 size planes just like the 82 is perfect for 40 size planes
11-13-2005, 09:05 AM
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CEEGEE----- get outa that purse, shell catch ya[X(]
got my vf edge saturday and this engine is a godsend for its 8.5 lbs
too bad i have to wait for it, but my 100 will fly it till then,i ordered a extra cowl for it so i can use both engines
got my vf edge saturday and this engine is a godsend for its 8.5 lbs
too bad i have to wait for it, but my 100 will fly it till then,i ordered a extra cowl for it so i can use both engines
11-13-2005, 01:28 PM
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If the 1.25 is in the same case as the 1.00, why would you need another cowel? Wouldn't the dimensions be the same?
11-13-2005, 04:03 PM
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Hi, according to Horizon the new FA125 is longer than the current FA120, it does have the same bolt holes as the FA100 though. It will have to be moved back on the Showtime engine mount and I think the length of the motor will cause it to stick out past the cowl a fair bit.
Flip over and out!!
Flip over and out!!
11-13-2005, 05:28 PM
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Yep , I am thinking of getting this for my Dream 110. I was looking at the YS110, but the weight of the saito is unreal. Also, the availability will be much better than the YS.
11-13-2005, 06:18 PM
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well, currently the ys has better availability 
not for long though
I like the numbers on this motor, but that is all they are for now... hopefully ys will bring out a 110dz or larger 110 to compete as well [X(]
not for long though
I like the numbers on this motor, but that is all they are for now... hopefully ys will bring out a 110dz or larger 110 to compete as well [X(]
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CEEGEE----- get outa that purse, shell catch ya[X(]
CEEGEE----- get outa that purse, shell catch ya[X(]
11-17-2005, 03:52 PM
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That reminds me. Need to get my fusion ready for when it comes
That reminds me. Need to get my fusion ready for when it comes
I know once I get one in my hands though, I'll head right to the building table and get to work on the Fusion.
11-17-2005, 07:48 PM
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Next I'd love to see a replacement for the 1.20 size planes. Maybe a 1.55-1.65 at the weight of the 1.20! Sure would be nice in the Goldberg Ultimate I am about ready to start on.
11-17-2005, 10:39 PM
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Next I'd love to see a replacement for the 1.20 size planes. Maybe a 1.55-1.65 at the weight of the 1.20! Sure would be nice in the Goldberg Ultimate I am about ready to start on.
Next I'd love to see a replacement for the 1.20 size planes. Maybe a 1.55-1.65 at the weight of the 1.20! Sure would be nice in the Goldberg Ultimate I am about ready to start on.
11-17-2005, 11:14 PM
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ORIGINAL: FlyerBry
Next I'd love to see a replacement for the 1.20 size planes. Maybe a 1.55-1.65 at the weight of the 1.20! Sure would be nice in the Goldberg Ultimate I am about ready to start on.
Next I'd love to see a replacement for the 1.20 size planes. Maybe a 1.55-1.65 at the weight of the 1.20! Sure would be nice in the Goldberg Ultimate I am about ready to start on.
11-18-2005, 10:40 AM
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Doesn't the Saito 180 weigh pretty much the same as the Saito 120?
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Next I'd love to see a replacement for the 1.20 size planes. Maybe a 1.55-1.65 at the weight of the 1.20! Sure would be nice in the Goldberg Ultimate I am about ready to start on.
Next I'd love to see a replacement for the 1.20 size planes. Maybe a 1.55-1.65 at the weight of the 1.20! Sure would be nice in the Goldberg Ultimate I am about ready to start on.
11-18-2005, 12:10 PM
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ORIGINAL: Ramz-to-tha-z
Doesn't the Saito 180 weigh pretty much the same as the Saito 120?
Doesn't the Saito 180 weigh pretty much the same as the Saito 120?
For the power to weight conscious flyer, the 2.5 oz diff between the 180 and the 120 makes ever buying a 120 sort of a silly move. Unless fuel consumption, vibration or prop clearance was an issue, there was no real choice but to go with the 180.
However, this left a huge void in Saito's line between the excellent Saito 100 and the Saito 180. There simply wasn't a good lightweight compromise, which is why the YS 110 (another great engine) has really no competition until the Saito 125 arrives.
11-18-2005, 03:01 PM
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Well, I ordered one of these today at the LHS. When the LHS called Horizon to place the order he was told late December early January for delivery. I can wait that long since the plane I plan to put it in (Carl Goldberg Ultimate) is still in the box and not started.
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Do you think the 125 is going to be a direct competitor to the YS110? All the ads seem to indicate it is the same power as the current Saito 1.20 at the weight of the 1.00. The YS 1.10 is known for being a bit heavy for its displacement but it makes huge power so it works well in 120 size planes. I've never owned a YS110 but everything I have heard about them seems to be that they are closer to the power of a Saito 150. That's why I say I'd like to see a 1.55ish size brought out next. This would be the same power as the hard to get and sometimes hard to tune YS1.10 in a 1.20 size weight. Seems like it would be a great follow-up to the 125.
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ORIGINAL: FlyerBry
Do you think the 125 is going to be a direct competitor to the YS110? All the ads seem to indicate it is the same power as the current Saito 1.20 at the weight of the 1.00. The YS 1.10 is known for being a bit heavy for its displacement but it makes huge power so it works well in 120 size planes. I've never owned a YS110 but everything I have heard about them seems to be that they are closer to the power of a Saito 150. That's why I say I'd like to see a 1.55ish size brought out next. This would be the same power as the hard to get and sometimes hard to tune YS1.10 in a 1.20 size weight. Seems like it would be a great follow-up to the 125.
Do you think the 125 is going to be a direct competitor to the YS110? All the ads seem to indicate it is the same power as the current Saito 1.20 at the weight of the 1.00. The YS 1.10 is known for being a bit heavy for its displacement but it makes huge power so it works well in 120 size planes. I've never owned a YS110 but everything I have heard about them seems to be that they are closer to the power of a Saito 150. That's why I say I'd like to see a 1.55ish size brought out next. This would be the same power as the hard to get and sometimes hard to tune YS1.10 in a 1.20 size weight. Seems like it would be a great follow-up to the 125.
The Saito 125 may end up producing slightly less power than the YS 110, but the real beauty of the 125 is the weight is 4 oz heavier than the Saito 100, and 3 oz less than the YS 110 -- right where you'd expect it to be (unlike the Saito 120, which nobody who cares about 3D should ever buy).
Advertised weights with muffs:
Saito 100 : 20.9 oz
Saito 125: 24.7 oz
YS 110 : 27.4 oz
Weight engine only:
Saito 120 28 oz
Saito 150 30 oz
Saito 180 31 oz
I'm a Saito guy, mostly cause they're available, they're pretty, and they never let me down. I'm so happy cause I now can buy a Saito for a 7.5lb 3D airplane where before the only obvious choice was a YS 110 -- in my view, a relatively unobtainable motor with a whole new set of issues to deal with.
I do realize that YS motors will probably always give more power than Saito motors for the same displacement, and probably even the same weight motor. However, that difference comes with several other issues that I don't want to deal with. If I was in competition, I would deal with those issues, but I'd rather enjoy the benefits of a 'sport class' motor and not have to deal with finicky motors.
So, like I said, the guy who is on the fence between the Saito 125 and YS 110 now has to really weigh the options. Before the 125, there really was no comparison.
11-20-2005, 12:20 AM
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Thanks for the great feedback wind junkie...
I guess we'll have to wait and see how the two motors compare on the same airframe to know for sure. I've looked into getting a YS110 in the past and have never pushed the issue because of the availability issue. I'm also a big Saito fan so a direct competitor would be really nice. The only real problem I have with these four strokes is the expensive high nitro fuel you need to run to see the full potential of the engine. In the right application, however, the extra expense is worth it.
It sure would be nice if the new 125 meets or exceeds the YS110. That would seem like a logical goal for the engineers during development as you would think the folks at Saito would look at the engines currently available on the market when deciding on what to develope next.
I used to have a Saito 100 but sold it when I came to the conclusion that there just aren't that many choices in 3D capable planes that are compatible with it. The best choices are profiles which just don't do much for me. It looks like the guys at Saito are on the right track with the 125.
FlyerBry
I guess we'll have to wait and see how the two motors compare on the same airframe to know for sure. I've looked into getting a YS110 in the past and have never pushed the issue because of the availability issue. I'm also a big Saito fan so a direct competitor would be really nice. The only real problem I have with these four strokes is the expensive high nitro fuel you need to run to see the full potential of the engine. In the right application, however, the extra expense is worth it.
It sure would be nice if the new 125 meets or exceeds the YS110. That would seem like a logical goal for the engineers during development as you would think the folks at Saito would look at the engines currently available on the market when deciding on what to develope next.
I used to have a Saito 100 but sold it when I came to the conclusion that there just aren't that many choices in 3D capable planes that are compatible with it. The best choices are profiles which just don't do much for me. It looks like the guys at Saito are on the right track with the 125.
FlyerBry
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An engine guy I respect (fuel manufacturer who thoroughly tests many motors of both companies, and studies customer feedback on both) says the Saito 150 has more power than a YS 110, but not by a large margin. We don't know the power that the Saito 125 will produce yet, but if trends hold, it will be more than the 120 and less than the 150.
The Saito 125 may end up producing slightly less power than the YS 110, but the real beauty of the 125 is the weight is 4 oz heavier than the Saito 100, and 3 oz less than the YS 110 -- right where you'd expect it to be (unlike the Saito 120, which nobody who cares about 3D should ever buy).
Advertised weights with muffs:
Saito 100 : 20.9 oz
Saito 125: 24.7 oz
YS 110 : 27.4 oz
Weight engine only:
Saito 120 28 oz
Saito 150 30 oz
Saito 180 31 oz
I'm a Saito guy, mostly cause they're available, they're pretty, and they never let me down. I'm so happy cause I now can buy a Saito for a 7.5lb 3D airplane where before the only obvious choice was a YS 110 -- in my view, a relatively unobtainable motor with a whole new set of issues to deal with.
I do realize that YS motors will probably always give more power than Saito motors for the same displacement, and probably even the same weight motor. However, that difference comes with several other issues that I don't want to deal with. If I was in competition, I would deal with those issues, but I'd rather enjoy the benefits of a 'sport class' motor and not have to deal with finicky motors.
So, like I said, the guy who is on the fence between the Saito 125 and YS 110 now has to really weigh the options. Before the 125, there really was no comparison.
ORIGINAL: FlyerBry
Do you think the 125 is going to be a direct competitor to the YS110? All the ads seem to indicate it is the same power as the current Saito 1.20 at the weight of the 1.00. The YS 1.10 is known for being a bit heavy for its displacement but it makes huge power so it works well in 120 size planes. I've never owned a YS110 but everything I have heard about them seems to be that they are closer to the power of a Saito 150. That's why I say I'd like to see a 1.55ish size brought out next. This would be the same power as the hard to get and sometimes hard to tune YS1.10 in a 1.20 size weight. Seems like it would be a great follow-up to the 125.
Do you think the 125 is going to be a direct competitor to the YS110? All the ads seem to indicate it is the same power as the current Saito 1.20 at the weight of the 1.00. The YS 1.10 is known for being a bit heavy for its displacement but it makes huge power so it works well in 120 size planes. I've never owned a YS110 but everything I have heard about them seems to be that they are closer to the power of a Saito 150. That's why I say I'd like to see a 1.55ish size brought out next. This would be the same power as the hard to get and sometimes hard to tune YS1.10 in a 1.20 size weight. Seems like it would be a great follow-up to the 125.
The Saito 125 may end up producing slightly less power than the YS 110, but the real beauty of the 125 is the weight is 4 oz heavier than the Saito 100, and 3 oz less than the YS 110 -- right where you'd expect it to be (unlike the Saito 120, which nobody who cares about 3D should ever buy).
Advertised weights with muffs:
Saito 100 : 20.9 oz
Saito 125: 24.7 oz
YS 110 : 27.4 oz
Weight engine only:
Saito 120 28 oz
Saito 150 30 oz
Saito 180 31 oz
I'm a Saito guy, mostly cause they're available, they're pretty, and they never let me down. I'm so happy cause I now can buy a Saito for a 7.5lb 3D airplane where before the only obvious choice was a YS 110 -- in my view, a relatively unobtainable motor with a whole new set of issues to deal with.
I do realize that YS motors will probably always give more power than Saito motors for the same displacement, and probably even the same weight motor. However, that difference comes with several other issues that I don't want to deal with. If I was in competition, I would deal with those issues, but I'd rather enjoy the benefits of a 'sport class' motor and not have to deal with finicky motors.
So, like I said, the guy who is on the fence between the Saito 125 and YS 110 now has to really weigh the options. Before the 125, there really was no comparison.
