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George E. 04-19-2002 10:57 AM

How to Harrier?
 
I have been having fun with my new Knife flying really slow and even landing vertically into a headwind using flaps.

As I understand the Harrier you are flying using the motor's thrust and not the lift from the wing. I have tried this with little success. It seems like I am always juggling the elevator and throttle to keep the nose up without having the plane sink or climb.


Questions:


Is a true Harrier a slightly tilted Hover where the thrust is pushing the plane foreward???

How do you manage the throttle and elevator??

Thanks
George

bob_nj 04-19-2002 02:17 PM

You're on the right track
 
Keep at it and practice, practice, practice! It is a delicate balance between airplane design, size, throttle, engine, prop and wind. Sounds easy huh ;) Get your hands on some of the Morris tapes if you can. They will shed light on what can and can't be done. It's a different game once you see it done and know that it's definitely do able. Tony Ayer was doing this stuff back in 1995, years ahead of his time. It's a shame he doesn't fly anymore. I've spoken several times to Tony and Walter Morris back in the day. They always had time for their customers. Also get a couple of the Propwash "Ballet Of The Sky" freestyle videos. They are awesome :eek:
In the mean time, check this link -->
http://www.rcuniverse.com/showthread...hlight=horizon

It will answer some of your basic questions_Bobb

George E. 04-19-2002 03:36 PM

How to Harrier?
 
Thanks Bob

It seems like practicing the Harrier low over the runway puts the plane at great risk! I have tried it and the nose does drop quick and I have to "burst" the throttle to get it back up, sometimes too late :( I have not yet found a "sweet spot" for the Harrier like I have for Hovering and spend a lot of time chasing the plane.


Where do you get the Morris videos. I tried the Morris web site but I couldn't find them.

Thanks.

I'll have to get out my beat up planes and start practicing :D

m.gramling 04-19-2002 04:10 PM

How to Harrier?
 
to get themorris videos you have to call Morrishobbies directly. Them them which one your want to order.

I have the morris knife video. It is pretty good. Makes me want to go fly and practice.

George E. 04-19-2002 04:17 PM

How to Harrier?
 
m.gramling

Did watching the videos give you some clues as to how the maneuvers are done, i.e. listening for throttle etc?

Thanks, I'll have to call Morris tonight.

George

bob_nj 04-19-2002 04:22 PM

That and more
 
Tony makes the planes look like yo yo's. What the videos do is implant in your mind that it can be done, yes and it isn't that difficult with practice. Tony used regular planes with regular engines. The Knife in my opinion is the best all around hoverbatic plane. It hovers all day long, will harrier and flat spin with the best of them. It isn't the best tumbler. A very forgiving floater type hover trainer that's also a blast to fly. Have fun and take care_Bob

acrohead 04-20-2002 06:11 PM

How to Harrier?
 
To do a harrier you do a elevator first and then just add a little bit of power to keep it from going down. If you dont know how to do a elevator you just put the elivator on hi rates and stall the plane but leave the elevator at full deflection. The plane should just sit there with an angle of attack and come down almost vertically.

George E. 04-20-2002 09:03 PM

How to Harrier?
 
Acrohead

I tried just what you said today into a slight headwind and was able to keep the plane stationary in the air, go backward, and land vertically. The wing was doing some of the flying so it was not a true Harrier but it's a start.

The only problem is when the wind changes suddenly and you are only 3 ft in the air. You have to be really quick on the throttle!! Lots of fun though!!


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