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Hello, I've got my first 3D plane and it flys nice. Hoovering and torquerolls will work out a little (still need some practice).
In this forum I read about all the other manouvers ( Waterfall, Harriers...) but I have no idea what these manouvers are. Can someone please teel me where I can find a description, if possible with a drawing or something like that.
Another question, I fly my plane (diabolotin) without any mixing (simply because I don't no what I should mix and why[sm=confused.gif]) Is it neccessary to do, or can I keep going on without?

Thank you very much

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See this thread, it may help http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/What...1140309/tm.htm

As for mixes, the first idea is to mix out unwanted tendancies, eg if the plane trys to roll out of knife edge, mix in some aileron to the rudder to keep it straight.

Other mixes include mixing the ailerons to elevator to make spoilerons to get stable harriers and elevators.

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Hey Kurt
Take a look here > http://www.3drc.info/aerobatics/3d/
Hope this helps.

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IM(not so)HO, mixing is evil (unless it's for flaperons or something like that). If it has to do with compensating for roling in a knife edge or something on that order, learn to do it manually. It'll make you a much better pilot.

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Nah, go for the mixes, I have a video of Jason Shulmans 40% plane, during setup you can see his knife edge mixes that are on all the time.. One less thing to screw with while your flying. Go for it, plus it makes your flying better.... Look at the Pattern guys, they are mixing guru's!!

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Everyone in IMAC that I know uses full time mixes for rudder coupling. You can learn to do it manually but for today's complicated maneuvers it is important to use mixing for best results.

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Thank you very much for all the input, now I can start practicing.
My question about mixing was just for knowing wether I should mix the elevator and ailerons. Maybe I can try this. Mixing out "unwanted tendancies" is not for me. I'll try to correct it with the sticks. I'm not saying that it's with great succes but I'm having fun with it and that's all that counts for me. I'm no competion flyer at all.
But anyway thanks a lot for al the good information. I'll let you know how things work out.

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Good luck, if your having fun go for it, if you want a plane that is easy to fly, and looks smooth in the air, go for the mixing.

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Do what appeals to you more. I just like doing it manually and not having to hit more switches.

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You dont have to hit any switches, mix is always on

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Now another 2 propably stupid questions:
1) mixing the elevator and ailerons to have spoilerons : when I pull up, must the ailerons go down or up? And how much?
2) When you mix the rudder with ailerons all the time to have smoother knife edge, isn't this a problem to have nice stall turns and flat turns? Then you have to correct in these manouvers I guess, or am I all wrong?

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Hey Kurt
Elevator up, Ailerons up = Spoilerons

Elevator up, Ailerons down = Flaperons

For flaperons I mix in about 30% ailerons to start, than add or subtract from there after flying. I don't use mixing on the rudder-aileron so I can't help there. I like to use as little mixing as possible right now but that may change down the road.
None of your questions are stupid!

Doug

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To answer question #2, most planes will couple in the same direction no matter what the attitude. Use rudder for a flat turn and the plane will want to descend, as well as in knife edge it will want to pitch to the belly. A full time rudder-elevator and rudder-aileron mix will help during the entire flight; that is why I keep the mixes active full time.