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blindfly 03-27-2004 05:20 PM

16!!!! point roll
 
I had first whitnessed this amazing manouver at our annual fly in.

did any one ever try it?

Since I don't think this is something you can do manually I believe there is a switch involved, offseting the ailerons every time you press it (a spring switch) so now all you'e got to do is basicly a slow roll with the rest of the controls.

any thoughts of that would be great.

Gabi

Shahid 03-27-2004 05:23 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
I can do a 360 point roll!

Just smack the stick onto one side....:D

A switch maybe involved but I think it really maybe the pilot doing all his/her self.

Doug Cronkhite 03-27-2004 05:26 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
16 point roll is easy.. No more difficult than an 8 point roll actually.

Katana 03-27-2004 05:41 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
my brother can do a 32 point roll

Luke 3D returns 03-27-2004 05:45 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
hanno pretner was doing 16 and 32 point rolls at sandown years ago....

Geistware 03-27-2004 05:58 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
WHile 16 and 32 point rolls are impressive, I understand that they are not a legal FAI maneuver.

Cactus. 03-27-2004 06:14 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 

I understand that they are not a legal FAI maneuver.
and you'll be carted off to jail along with tail touchers ;)

cabanestrut2002 03-27-2004 06:30 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
i can just about do a 8 point roll. not tried a 16 yet.

i doubt its done on a switch.

3D ONdaEDGE 03-27-2004 10:35 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
I saw Todd Blose do a 32 point roll at our last 2 fly ins. No switches. Just great flying. He also did a 8 point 4 roll rolling circle. I was simply amazed by this manuver. I cant even begin to imagine how hard that was to learn.

wgeffon 03-27-2004 11:16 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 

ORIGINAL: Katana

my brother can do a 32 point roll

Your damn bro can do it all..... Make's us normal people sick. [>:]

bentgear 03-27-2004 11:57 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
-----Since I don't think this is something you can do manually I believe there is a switch involved, offseting the ailerons every time you press it (a spring switch) so now all you'e got to do is basicly a slow roll with the rest of the controls. -----


You are partially right. Would you believe a spring loaded rheostat on the other end of a control stick!!!! :D

Ed M.

Balsa Masher 03-28-2004 01:54 AM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
I have never seen anybody do a 16 point roll with a model, but it certainly is not unreasonable. I remember watching Bob Hoover at Oshkosh doing a 16 point roll with his twin with one engine out! The models have the controls to do it, it comes down to the skill of the pilot. I don't think any fancy mixing or switches are required. All it takes is practice. (oops, I hope italian flyer doesn't see this!)

Ken

Shortman 03-28-2004 02:11 AM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
I can do 64 point rolls with a glider using my right toe;)

jack01 03-28-2004 02:12 AM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
You can do a 16 point roll manually. Actually, it would be harder to do it with a switch. Although I've never really tried a 16 point roll, I've done a 16 point rolling circle. I've got a friend that's done a 36 point roller with his pattern plane. The hardest part for me is keeping up with how many points I've done, and keeping them spaced. I can't count that high without using my fingers, and they're busy on the Tx. ;)

Balsa Masher 03-28-2004 02:28 AM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
Is it possible to do 128 point rolls?

MarkNovack 03-28-2004 02:59 AM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
It is actually a simple manuever. Just visualize 4 points for every quarter. Feed your rudder and elevator as you would for a slow roll. You can do as many points as you can possibly see. 32 is the most that I have done with good symmetry. I also do what I call a stutter roll, perhaps it has forty or fifty points, but they are not symmetrical on the points. Digital servos and a well tuned airplane help lots here.

Mark

Ian.W 03-28-2004 08:15 AM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
imagin a 360 point roll! I can do 4 points easy, a 4 point rolling circle and 8 pointers. thats it.

coony2787 03-28-2004 09:03 AM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
I have seen Mike Sauls do 16 point rolls all day at fly ins and i dont think he has any switch to make it easier.


Chad

Luke 3D returns 03-28-2004 01:26 PM

RE: 16!!!! point roll
 
Marknovack knows what hes on about, tried just doing four points for each quarter endning up with two 15 point rolls, but you need precise ailerons and lots of expo or low control movements.


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