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spad3d 05-10-2004 02:52 PM

Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
I have Real Flight.
I've seen all videos of Aerofly. The planes do very nice torque roll not because Aerofly is better than Real Flight but cause the pilot uses
full left ailerons to get torque roll.

See videos at [link]http://ohiomodelplanes.com[/link]
What do you think about?

SMALLFLY- 05-10-2004 02:58 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
You obviuosly have never flown aerofly pro have you? The 3d planes will TR all by themselves without your help, sometimes a little to easily

Luftman 05-10-2004 03:07 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 

I've seen all videos of Aerofly. The planes do very nice torque roll not because Aerofly is better than Real Flight but cause the pilot uses
full left ailerons to get torque roll
I have AFP, I dont really do TR w/ ailerons because the plane becomes too much to handle sometimes (no computer radio, no expo or anything). If i changed things a bit it would be easier (I dont like cheating), but I generally TR by letting the torque of the engine do the job.

Arnold Schwarzenegger 05-10-2004 04:12 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
Real Flight is definately better

Shahid 05-10-2004 04:14 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
But its unrealistic. Ipacs who made AFP do military flight sims.

famousdave 05-10-2004 04:48 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
I have flown both extensively. I think Real Flight is a better overall "program" meaning its more stable, has more general features and lots of options with better tech support should you run into bugs or problems. AFP has a a somewhat better algorithm to compute its physics, but unless you need or are good enough to fly with military precision you won't even notice it.

As far as I'm concerned, the low speed (3D) handling with RF is far more accurate and realistic that AFP. I use all the same stick sequences for maneuvers with RF as I do on my real planes. AFP allows me to do things I could never do on the sticks and makes some manuevers wayyyy too easy. I last about 30 secs max in a torque roll in RealFlight - about what I can maintain with my real plane. AFP, I can TR on take off and hold it there at will until I want out.... not real to me.

They are both great progams to learn on and practice but I were to choose between them - it would be real flight.

DP

Arnold Schwarzenegger 05-10-2004 05:32 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
Real Flight, how dare you challenge my word?

Shahid 05-10-2004 08:18 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
Take it easy.

lion3D 05-11-2004 02:02 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 

desert pig:

"I have flown both extensively. I think Real Flight is a better overall "program" meaning its more stable, has more general features and lots of options with better tech support should you run into bugs or problems. AFP has a a somewhat better algorithm to compute its physics, but unless you need or are good enough to fly with military precision you won't even notice it.

As far as I'm concerned, the low speed (3D) handling with RF is far more accurate and realistic that AFP. I use all the same stick sequences for maneuvers with RF as I do on my real planes. AFP allows me to do things I could never do on the sticks and makes some manuevers wayyyy too easy. I last about 30 secs max in a torque roll in RealFlight - about what I can maintain with my real plane. AFP, I can TR on take off and hold it there at will until I want out.... not real to me.

They are both great progams to learn on and practice but I were to choose between them - it would be real flight".

What planes do you use, desertpig, to learn torque roll by Real Flight?

Thank you.

Breakstuff5050 05-11-2004 03:16 PM

RE: what plane to fly on real flight for 3D
 
I used real flight before i knew to fly, and ive been flying for about 6 months and im still learning something new from real flight, but i suggest you go to realflight.com and download from the swap pages, look for something like a cap232, it might be a little easy if you know how to do 3D but if your starting out it might be challenging.

Shahid 05-11-2004 04:59 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
Well they both beat FMS.

Some people say FMS is an excellent sim for first timers, in my opinion, no, the planes seem to be underwater, when you let go of the sticks, it keeps on rolling and rolling.

The annoying thing was the incredible amount of torque, even in the jets you rolled due to torque. You could never trim for that, the right amount of trim was in between the clicks!!!!

AcroJo 05-11-2004 07:21 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 

ORIGINAL: Arnold Schwarzenegger
Real Flight, how dare you challenge my word?
Arnold, is it true that you are afraid of Sylvester Stallone? Joe

Ian.W 05-12-2004 11:41 AM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
arnie, i dont like you, you are harsh, i dont think the people of CA would like to see you be harsh just cos AFP is 10x better than realflight.

bye bye *coughvittoriocough*

tarantola 05-12-2004 03:01 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
[8D]Hi people

;)Hi edible_engine, my good old friend

[color=green]I'm Vittorio from Italy[sm=sunsmiley.gif]a beautiful country.

[color=black]I'm not "Arnold Schwarzenegger". I don't like him too.

I agree with you, edible_engine. I want to sell Real Flight (ARF, Almost Real Flight) and buy Aerofly Pro.

Bye bye, RC admins want to send me away from this forum but I can't stay no longer far from you.

Shahid 05-12-2004 03:05 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
:eek:

Well, if you can't sell Realflght just get AFP anyway, its seems pretty good.

Glad to see now more big changing colour writing, you will be able to send message faster now.

Do yourself a favour, don't start posting rubbish, you will be booted again and again, just be normal and try to enjoy things

Ian.W 05-12-2004 03:12 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
vittorio, buying AFP is a good move on the way to learn 3D. keep your posts normal and youll stay on here.

dirtdr 05-12-2004 10:18 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
I have both realflight and AFP. The biggest difference is in realflight the ailerons become ineffective when the plane is stalled... 3D
on my real planes I can control a torque roll with ailerons, with realflight you cannot

Arnold Schwarzenegger 05-12-2004 10:55 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
I am not afraid of Sylverster Stalone. I don't care he did Rocky, I could break him in two like a twig.

tarantola 05-13-2004 12:44 AM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
[8D]Hi people

Dear "dirt3d" and all other beginners and 3D experts

Awaiting of getting AFP, can you tell me what is the best plane of Real Flight to learn 3D? I have add-ons n. 4.

Thank you.

[color=green]Vittorio from Italy[sm=sunsmiley.gif]a beautiful country.

Threshold 05-13-2004 02:21 AM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
the Extra 330S Freestyle (SD) and move the CG back to -9.5 inches.

tarantola 05-13-2004 03:25 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
[8D]Hi people

Dear Threshold

the plane you suggested is too slow, too light, too unreal:

Then it's still better the plane I suggested: http://www.bestrc.com/hobbies-bin/co...330Profile.exe

"desertpig", you praised Real flight. Where have you desappeared?

[color=green]Vittorio from Italy[sm=sunsmiley.gif]a beautiful country.

famousdave 05-13-2004 03:47 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
I use one of the big caps on the swaps page. I am not sure the exact one, but you only need the main disc (no add-ins) to use it. Its huge - it actually appears partly covered by the runway its so big, but don't think there is something wrong.. try it!

If you can learn to TR this plane in RealFlight, you will be able to TR your real RC plane (assuming its set up right and has enough power) . I though this was BS at first, as another flyer once told me this .. however -after several weeks of crashing, I finally got the big cap to TR consistently.

Low and behold - I tried it with my real 1/4 scale CAP and I could TR it too. Says a lot about the program and who set up that CAP profile on the swap page..

Prior to using RF, I was using AFP and I could TR all day on the sim but when I went to the field - I fell out of the TR every time.

I bought both so I am not slamming AFP - IMO RF is a little better. They are both good to learn basic flight and patterns on, I think the 3D part RF is better at. I disagree with the aileron movement when stalled. You might not be able to "see" the ailerons move, but they still have effect...

Good luck! I don't think you can lose with either software...
DP

STLPilot 05-13-2004 10:08 PM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
Ciao l'Aviatore Italiano. L'aereo migliore di volare per 3D su AFP e Extra 330S. Anche gli aerei di OMP lavorano molto bene a imparare 3D. Credo che lei ha comprato il suo AFP dalla mia corporazione? Lei pu scaricare alcuni del migliore 3D gli aerei al www.aeroflypro.com/download Per favore scusarsi il mio Italiano cattivo, non sono stato a Italia in parecchi anni, mio padre e da Chieti, Abbruzzi. Dove lei vive?

Ciao,
D Cini

shanes300 05-15-2004 12:32 AM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
I agree with Dirtdr. I have even tried to modify te ailerons and make them cover more of a % of the wing, and once the plane is hovering, you cant keep it from TR.

Luke 3D returns 05-15-2004 07:49 AM

RE: Real Flight or Aerofly Pro?
 
I think even though no sim is 100% realistic, AFP is extremely good as far as a sim goes. Realism in hovering is very good, and will teach you the imputs required during torque rolls. it makes the hovering learning process a lot cheaper faster and quicker


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