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3DP 05-13-2004 06:33 PM

120 size 3d capable plane
 
I've done tons of research on these forums. I first decided on a 27% something (cap, extra, edge, etc.) but I figured that getting something a bit smaller would be a better idea (still bigger than a 40 though). I started flying planes at a young age, and I've always wanted to get a big airplane. So now I've jumped back into flying planes again after a few years of not flying airplanes (been flying helis instead :). It seems like 3d type flying is all the rage now. I've decided on something in the 0.60 to 1.20 size, and I would prefer a kit. I would'nt mind 4 stroke power either (.91 - 1.20) since I've never had one before. I'm not looking for a profile, even though these seem to be very popular and make it easy to jump into 3ding a plane. From the research I've done I could only find one plane that seems to be full 3d capable, the extreme flight rc yak 55 (not a kit). I've also learned that 3d does'nt mean just being able to torque roll, but being able to execute "high alpha" manuevers. I've looked at every 1.20 size plane that I could find, and it seems like most of them need to be modded to 3d and even then they can't truly 3d. Any suggestions?

Josey Wales 05-13-2004 07:10 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
The new Funtana 90 sounds like what your lookng for except its an arf...

peter_m 05-14-2004 04:36 AM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
does the flair Katana do any thing for you

Scott Dilley 05-14-2004 07:03 AM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
Goldberg has a 1/4 scale Ultimate Bipe that will handle that kind of power.

SMALLFLY- 05-14-2004 07:18 AM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
I dont see how you could beat the new 68" extreme flight yak with a saito 120 (or 150) in the nose YS 110 if you feel like a little more fiddling for a little more power

Spaceclam 05-15-2004 01:32 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
agreed on the yak, i just got mine and i guarantee that you will not be dissappoited. the quality is like nothing i have ever seen before in an arf. sence everything is about as slose to perfect as you could ever find, i give the quality and construction 5 out of 5 stars. i could not find a single thing wrong with it. instead of using cheap hardware they actuyally use the dubro stuff and even an included pull/pull rudder. CF wingtube and composite LG are things you usualy have to pay extra for but are included in this arf. the covering job is amazing. the fuse is beyond light. it's a yak so the fuselage is round, and it is 8 inches in diameter at the cowl and is 64 inches long and weighs only 1.8 lbs. but it is not flimsy. i know a guy who does full power blenders with his ys 140 in it and it takes it just fine. check it out at www.extremeflightrc.com and you will see what i mean. i've got a ys 110 waiting for it as well.

lord lucan 05-15-2004 02:27 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 

ORIGINAL: 3DP

..... I I've looked at every 1.20 size plane that I could find, and it seems like most of them need to be modded to 3d and even then they can't truly 3d. Any suggestions?
Your quest is over:)...look no further..;) go without hesitation to the " Freestyle Rush.." or " " Cyclone.." threads... be part of the global intrest being shown in these airplanes....[:-] for more specifics and photo's :) ....look on my profile to catch up with the thread... Dave..

Spaceclam 05-15-2004 03:04 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
your options are pretty limited mind you because the 3d market has sprung up in the .40 market a lot because they are much cheaper, and the larger scale planes will do it too. but the .60-1.20 market lags way behind. those planes he mentioned and the superior yak are just about all there is.

Shahid 05-15-2004 03:13 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 

Goldberg has a 1/4 scale Ultimate Bipe that will handle that kind of power.
Speaking of the Goldberg Ultimate, hows this kit go together in terms of difficulty?

lord lucan 05-15-2004 04:50 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
Ah-ha...zep...again...:)

Speaking of the construction of the Goldberg Ultimate Bipe........we wer'nt..:)

This was more a 1.20 UCD type thread or others in the same vien......That superb YAK 54 ARTF may well slip under the wire ...for drooling over ....but thats a REPLICA of a full size ..not a specific 3D'er...Pay attention Bond...:)

Spaceclam 05-15-2004 10:12 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
the yak is a replica of the full scale one... which is a 3d plane (or as good as you can get anyway with out killing the pilot) and you obviously have not seen the videos of this thing or talked to anybody who has flown it or sen it fly. it is a specific 3dr. you can check it out at www.extremeflightrc.com and you will see what i mean. they have a video there. all extreme flight products are specifically made for 3d. the yak simply did not need to be so different...

3DP 05-15-2004 10:17 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
Thanks for the replies. I remember way back in 199x when MAN did a review on the goldberg extra 300. I really wanted one of those, but they're not 3d capable :( I've searched through the forums, and people have done modifications to this kit and some people even tried the same thing on the newer GP extra 300s (enlarging tail surfaces, etc.) It seems as if it either did'nt really work out, or they tried it and did'nt want to post the disappointment of the results. My heart is set on the funtana 90, but they are sold out at the moment [:o]

Spaceclam 05-15-2004 11:30 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
have you checked on the 68 inch yak from extreme flight? it will do everything in the book, although they are sold out for the moment as well.

lord lucan 05-15-2004 11:45 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
Andrew, Andrew, Andrew....

The lovley Yak-54 is a replica of a TRAINER....

Here...This a Quote from Matt Merciez in his excelent review of this excelent ARTF...

" The YAK-54 ARTF by Extreme Flight RC is a replica of the Russian designed YAK-54. The full scale YAK is a two-seat sporting and aerobatic trainer desgned for training sports pilots in aerobatic flights and for participating in the aircraft sports competitions. "




Edited ... Spelling correction to Matt's name.

Spaceclam 05-15-2004 11:55 PM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
I know. however, trainer means it can be docile and easy to fly when set up like that. when i tone down my throws on my twist, it flys very much like my old pt-40 does, and could be used as a trainer. but when i crank up the throws, it will do loops in 5 feet. also, it says "training pilots in aerobatic flights" meaning that it is not a "learn to fly" kind of plane but a plane that is forgiving, most likely a very light wing loading, and is not all over the place unless you want it to be. also, if it is training you for "aerobatic flights and "participating in the aircraft sport competitins" than it must be capable of doing so or it will not train you to do it. that would be like using my trainer to train people for toc flights. ain't gonna happen. you need a plane that is capable of doing it all to train pilots to use it to it's full potential in a competition. besides, this is not a "scale replica" anyway. it looks very much alike and has the same basic shape. check out the video. there are also other videos of the thing doing blinding "all over the place" spins, and all kinds of stuff that a "trainer" can not do.;)

lord lucan 05-16-2004 12:20 AM

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[quote]ORIGINAL: Spaceclam

..... it says "training pilots in aerobatic flights" meaning that it is not a "learn to fly" kind of plane....

Hmmmm...:)

Hey Andrew it really dont matter:)..If you like it ...and if it flies like you like it then ...thats it :)simple... wish i could get one ...were having a scale w/end at home here..flew peters P51 for the first time yesterday...look..[:-].....struggled with the Harriers though:)

Spaceclam 05-16-2004 12:46 AM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
lord lucan, is that you with the p-51?

lord lucan 05-16-2004 03:29 AM

RE: 120 size 3d capable plane
 
Andrew ..
Good heavens...no..!:)...i'm no where near as good looking..wish i was.!.....must dash ....beautiful day again here ...:)


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