Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

Hi guys,
Can someone tell me what a good beginner 3-d aerobatic plane would be?
Thanks

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

Hi, Warbird Lover a good starter 3-d plane would be any of the edge models.

Perfect!!!!
 

Glad to see you have finally taken an interest in the dark side. Judging from your primary intersest I believe I have found the perfect 3D machine for you.

The Balsa USA Taube 40.

http://www.balsausa.com/kits/kit.htp?id=13&shopperid=

The looks won't hurt your feelings either!

Let me know if you need lessons!

SIG SE
 

The Somethin' Extra by SIG manuf. Do a search on "SIG SE" on here and you will see what I mean.

Easy to fly, and does everything you can think of PERIOD! :eek:

james

Good 3D Plane
 

Warbird Lover,
Probably the best 3D plane for you would be a Hobbico Avistar. With your level of skill and enthusiasm you should have NO problem torque rolling and doing multiple rudder touches with this awesome piece of machinery! Also if you really wanted to you could put some invasion stripes on the wings and pass it off as a warbird at your next circle fly meet.:D

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

I would have to say a 1/5 scale Stuka. Put an OS .40 LA in it and have at it.

(He's trolling boys..........)

But Seriously
 

Probably the best 3D plane that I have seen to date is the RadioCraft 35% Extra 300L. This plane is capable of any crazy 3D maneuver you can think of and then some. You just have to be a little careful with them as they won't take a tremendous amount of abuse since they are so light. It just so happens that I saw the cowl fall off one at the field today. Probably a vibration issue though. A little tape and it was as good as new. Seriously, though if you are considering a large 3D plane, definitely look into the RadioCraft. I don't think you will be disappointed. Good Luck ;)

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

erjpilot,

What are you doing man, You shouldn't tell him about all the advanced 3D planes. What are you trying to do make him get into 3D with something beyond his ability? You know he'd just crash it and get disgusted with 3D again. Tell him about all the easy planes there are to 3D. Like the Taube and the Stuka wgeffon suggested. :D :D :D :D ;)

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

erjpilot,

You stuck that one in on me. I was refering to the hobbico as the advanced bird. The RadioCraft 35% Extra 300L would probably fly more like the P-51 to him.

Convert???
 

Wouldn't it be better to just try to convert him altogether. Then he could be just like us 3D guys and maybe he wouldn't be sooo irritating. Am I wrong in my theory here guys?

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

erjpilot:

Actually the Hobbico Avistar hovers quite well on an OS46 and APC11X5, it will even TR just a little bit, IRRC the best I ever did with mine was 2 to 3 rotations. :D

Troll warbird guy go away.

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

I'd vote for the GP DR1 Triplane ARF, does a beautiful torque roll, and so little at stake!

Retraction
 

I would like to retract my recommendation of the RadioCraft Extra for Warbird. I missed the word beginner in his initial post. This is definitely not a beginner's plane. This airplane is truly for a highly seasoned 3D pilot. Sorry, Warbird for the miscommunication. :(

radiocraft
 

Hi erjpilot,
Is it harder to fly then a warbird? I've heard from alot of guys that the 3-d planes are easy to fly because they're built light, and unscale like. I keep crashing my warbirds so I was looking for an easier type plane to fly. So I take it that I shouldn't get one?

3D???
 

Hey Warbird Lover..I think you should learn to control a glider before you start thinking about 3D. Just my opinion. :eek:

No, that is not what I am saying at all!!
 

Warbird,
You are correct in that aerobatic 3D type planes do fly very easy. They are light and very controllable, unlike most warbirds except for maybe the Stuka and DR1 as described above. You should try it, maybe you will like it. Problem is then you would have to change your name to something other than Warbird_Lover, i.e. "3D_Lover" Good Luck with your decision. :D

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

I had a glider once - wasn't too good at "3-d" though. It's a sad story actually. This guy at the field brought up the idea of aerotowing. (He has a JR 10x so I figured he knew what he was doing) I brought my warbird to the field as well as my glider one day. We decided to aerotow it from this "Aerotowing Experts" plane. I asked him how long the string had to be and he said "15 feet at the most". So I pulled out 15 feet. Anyway.... the string has to be alot longer than that. He said he'd fix my glider within the next two weeks or give me his 10x. (Personally I'd rather have the 10x). That'll go great with my new 3-d plane.

Aerotow guy
 

Warbird,
That is a sad story about your glider. It sounds as though you got lead down the wrong path unfortunately. Try not to be so gullible next time you are talking to an "Expert." Just because someone has all the high-end stuff doesn't make them an expert. :(

Glider problem
 

Sorry to hear about your problem. What happened? Couldn't you control the glider. Are you sure the guy didn't say 15 yards? That sounds like a more reasonable length for a tow rope. Maybe you misunderstood. I had a towplane once and now I have a new glider and I don't think it's gonna be that hard to control, but I could be wrong. BTW...I hope you get your glider fixed. You could get in some good practice before you advance to 3D flying.

I'll give you 15 yards!!!
 

Pilot 24 please don't add insult to injury. If you have a suggestion for a good 3-d plane then I'm open for suggestions. Was your towplane a 3-d plane? What happened to it?

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

EVERY PLANE IS " 3-D" UNLESS ITS COMPLETELY FLAT THEN WE HAVE THE 2-D SHIP!

Top Cap
 

My recomendation.....from a stand point that i am at is just about where you are starting...if that makes any sense.....Get a Morris Hobbies Top Cap.....Power it with a Saito .72.....and go have a Blast.....its a great 3D trainer....either that or the New Morris Hobbies Sledge 540....Mine isn't done yet..but from everthing i've heard about it ...its as good as the Top Cap if not better.....

Just my 2 pennies worth

easy 3D plane
 

If you want an easy to fly plane that can do anything get a Morris Hobbies Top Cap or some type of fun fly. They can be setup mild or wild and land at walking speed.

Pat

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

Something light, slow, and forgiving. My usual two, that no-one has really payed much attention to, but madness and laser 3D.

Good Starter 3-d Plane
 

Glad to see you coming to your senses! Actually, the best plane to start out with for 3D isn't a plane at all! Buy a sim such as G2, (buy a 2nd controller to, you’ll probably wear one out) and practice, practice practice! Pick a good aerobatic plane such as the Cap, and start out with take offs, landings, and normal flight. I'd be remiss by not pointing out that you're probably in for some serious time in front of the pc! When you've got straight & level upright & inverted figure 8’s down and can land on a dime, start practicing loops, rolls, snaps, knife edge, 4 & 8 point rolls, flat turns, rolling circles and rolling loops, and practice them low to the ground. Take your time here, it really pays off. Belly in, belly out, coming towards you, going away from you, rolls & turns to the left and right, wind from the north, south, east west, etc. Once you’ve got these down so well that you no longer think about inputs no matter what the direction/angle/orientation/speed/wind, (and actually are bored senseless by it) start learning Aresti. Get out the different patterns they use for the different IMAC competitions. Learn them inside out, starting with beginners and moving through to the expert. Once you can do the advanced and expert well, start tweaking the plane, moving the CG back farther and farther, and adding more and more power to it. If you have to put in any down elevator while inverted, the tail doesn’t drop when you slow down, or the plane can't pull vertical at 1/3 throttle on a take off, you've not got it right. Flying with this plane will be a whole new ball game, so go back and practice some more. When you're "one with the machine" (flying expert with the horizontal stuff no more than 6’ off the ground, flirting with tail touches on the inverted stuff, and not crashing) you’ll finally be ready to start practicing 3D! Start doing the simple stuff, transitioning upright to inverted flat spins, hovering, walls, harriers, parachutes, then progress in to torque rolls, high alpha rolling circles and loops, waterfalls, stuttering rolls, etc. When you can do 3D on the sim, know what you're doing, and can control (kick up that wind!) where the plane’s going at all times, then go out and buy a real 3D plane (you may want to sell all your old stuff to, it’ll be a bit old and boring by now). This method will prevent a lot of crashes, time rebuilding, be much safer, and be a lot less embarrassing to you than just going out and buying and wrecking a perfectly good 3D machine, (and by the time you get good enough on the sim, there will be even better planes on the market!). I’d normally say good luck, but with this advice, I doubt you’ll need it! Now print this out, hang it on the wall next to your PC, and get to that sim practice!