pizazz problems
 

i am just getting into 3D flying and just got my first 3d plane done. it is a hangar 9 pizazz. i put a thunder tiger .40 on it and i think it will be fine but i might swich to a magnum .53. but the problem is is that it is really heavy. i figured that i would have to add 8 ounces to the nose to get it properly balanced even with the batter moved all the way foward. i really dont want to do that because it is alot of weight. if you have any ideas about this plane please let me know thanks- zack

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sorry its not really heavy, it is really tail heavy

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Don't have that plane but I have considered it in the past and have read many posts about it, Go with the Mag 53, It will have the power to make it fun and help with the balance. The 40 will probally only pull it around underpowered for real Fun flying, most say the Pizzazz is not a true 3'd plane but a Fun Flying type.

Lurk in this forum and you will learn the best planes to get for 3D flight, Keep an eye on OMP's Profiles, Accell hobby, Extreme Flight, Morris Hobbies, Swany's House Profiles, Are the current favorites.

Have fun and let us know how the Magnum 53 holds up, I'm starting to hear some positive info. on that engine.

Also search the pizazz name for other threads/info in ARF forum and Profile and Fun flying plane forum and this forum, should be many build threads.

Dennis

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I have a Saito .72 on mine now. It started it's life with a Enya.50 on it. When the Enya was on there I had it slid out to the very front of the ALUM mounting bars. You should do the same. When I switched to the 4-C the holes in the mount for the back of the 2-C are now the holes for the front of the 4-C. There is a good 1" of play here so slide it out.
Also I don't want to disillusion you but the Pizzaz won't do 3-D. It will hover and flat spin and do a blender but that's about it. It wont do a wall,ELEV,parachute,waterfalletc..etc.. It is a fun plane to fly and I would not talk you out of it but you will be limited on what you can do with it.



David

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thanks. i just got into 3D and about the only thing of those 3d manuvers that i knew was hovering. im going to fly it tomorow for the first time. also what should i buy for my next 3der. i am only 15 so right now i dont have a really big hangar or pocket book. thanks alot- zack

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Zack there are 100 different opinions out ther for good 3-D machines. A have a Funtana and love it. The learning curve however was pretty steep. The You Can do 3D planes are easier to fly but wont do some of the wild stuff the Funtana will do. There are also a lot of good profile planes and ARF that will 3D. I would suggest getting one that you can afford to overpower and one that someone near you has some time on.
BTW onse you get used to the Pizzaz start moving the CG back a little at a time. Mine would not flat spin good until I was 1/2" behind the recommended CG.


david

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yeah that is the problem with me is that every one around me fly's gliders wich i think are boring and i dont really get along with any of them b/c they are all kindof nerds. i knew a guy that had a funtana and he said he hated it. i have a plane that i ordered coming in. its a SPAD quor. i think im going to try 3d on it first so i dont screw up my pizazz. it is said to be ok as far as a 3d trainer.

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I built about 6 of these SPAD3Ds. I flew a few and sold the rest. They only cost about $15. each. They are great for teaching your left thumb what to do. I would recommend one for any body learning to hover and/or 3D. Just make sure you bring a bunch of props with you. The only thing is I don't think you should just fly the SPAD. You should fly it a few times and then something else and go back and forth. The SPAD takes a lot of stick movement to fly. If you only fly it you will overcontrol the next plane you fly. I have not flown the quor so it might be different. Either way take your time and have fun.


David

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i have a pizzazz and i played with lots of combat spads, pizzazz is a great plane will do all you can think of and lot more. make it as light as you can, in my case, i changed the landing gear to a lighter one i had, cut all the parts not necessary, like the engine compartment i cut flush with the firewall, used a carbon push rod. i had a st 40 on it and it was ok but underpowered, then i got 12.5- 3.25 prop and that made all the differ in the world. the prop is made for 3-d try it i think you will love it. but dont think pizzazz wont 3-d at least for the beginning you will have your hands full, Faust get it light, use a mini servo on the engine if you can, maybe smaller tank, for me 6oz works the best. about spads just set them right and they will be good planes, the only thing they dont keep trim very good, for some reason(maybe temp) trim changes from day to day, but most importantly dont be afraid to play around, try many diff. things, experiment, at least thats my favorite part of this hobby. in my pizzazz i even cut the covering off the wings and the tail and cut holes in the ribs and the tail. my came out at 3.75lb ready to fly and does great with a super tiger 40 with 12.5- 3.25, man but that prop makes a lot of diff. anyway have fun and let us know what how it went

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Can someone tell me what the CG is on a Hanger 9 Pizzazz ? I have just got one from old stock and it didnt have any paperwork
Thanks,

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i dont really know but if you find out let me know also let me know how it flies i have one and i have never used the dang thing. if i was you though i would just balance it a little bit aft of the spar and go from there.

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The balance point is 3 1/4 to 3 3/4 inches from the leading edge. I can send the manual to anyone wanting a copy. PM me an email address. The manual is in PDF form.

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This was my first 3D plane, i used to love mine such a great plane. i had a SC .52 and a purple tuned pipe on the front. Only thing that sucked was the wings not coming off. very stable and surprisingly quick.

ingie