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TrevofKal 02-22-2005 07:57 AM

modeltech magic
 
Any body got any idea just how capable this plane is ?

PJFaller 02-22-2005 08:16 AM

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I flew one quite a bit and it was one of the most fun planes I ever flew. does everything. nice headwind it would even land High Alpha going backwards. great flying plane..

Walt and Sage 02-22-2005 11:03 AM

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I Agree,

The small plane is a BLAST... It is light with a huge wing..
VERY large control surfaces

An OS 46ax is all you need for UNLIMITED vertical...
Comes with a tail skid so you have to provide steering
on the ground if you want it...







csisfun 02-22-2005 11:07 AM

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I have one of these, it is a good plane, with a OS 50 SX on it, it is ballistic! Vertical hand launches are possible!!!

I haven't really tried any 3Ding on it. I'm not very good at 3Ding. Just wondering, can this plane do flatspins!?

TrevofKal 02-22-2005 03:09 PM

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I've got a saito 56 I was going to run on it if I got one. How would that go??
Do they seem well built??

Razor-RCU 02-22-2005 03:26 PM

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The Saito56 would work VERY well--- This airplane does great flat-spins!

I have flown many:
OS-50FSR Heli engine 12.25x 3.75
TT-42, 11x5
K&B-48, 12.25x 3.75
OS-46FX, 12x4 and 12.25x 3.75
Saito-50 (dunno which prop.)

The Saito 50 could hover but barely, and the TT-42 was anemic but the others were impressive!

Ian.W 02-22-2005 05:01 PM

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i have something equivelent. powered by an old irvine 36. hand launches vertical at 3/4 power. hovers LESS than half. weighs 3lbs:D

Luke 3D returns 02-22-2005 05:35 PM

RE: modeltech magic
 
Check this video! very good!


http://www.streamload.com/teryn1/pub...ar2.05-bts.wmv

daveopam 02-22-2005 09:58 PM

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It is a fun plane but I have to go against the grain here. The one I flew belonged to a friend. It was more of a "fun-fly" type plane than a 3-D monster.


David

teryn1 02-23-2005 12:11 AM

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This is an excellent plane.

setup info here:

www.terynd.com/magic.html

csisfun 02-23-2005 03:27 AM

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I always wonder how the people in the videos hover so well... I can barely hover! [:@]. My hover stays for one or too seconds before it starts getting weird. Do you guys use ailerons when hovering?!

How do I do a flat spin?!

Sorry, I just wanna get the most out of this plane :D!!!!

stas 02-23-2005 06:15 AM

RE: modeltech magic
 
for a flat spin
low power 1/4 or less
pull in full rudder and elevator
once spin starts slowly apply power anything up to full
and slowly apply opposite aileron
help to have a rear c of g

stas 02-23-2005 06:27 AM

RE: modeltech magic
 
a very good little plane
but not very negitive g capable
the magic extra will knife edge
and do pos and neg stunt better

csisfun 02-23-2005 07:19 AM

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Just how far is your CG? Mine is around the recommended 115mm, but I suspect you can go backwards a lot more since the Magic has the same large wing as the Magic Extra, which people always suggest a further tail-heavy CG than what is recommended.

But is it worth the lead?!

stas 02-23-2005 11:31 PM

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on all our planes we run a c of g at
25% to 30% trainer
33% to 35% sport and 3d
at 35 % will flat stall when power is not on [dead stick]

sir-crash-alot 02-24-2005 09:39 AM

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ailerons control your spin speed or keep u from tring. Also they help with placement of the aircraft!

csisfun 02-27-2005 09:29 AM

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ALL RIGHT! I finally did a flatspin today! It looks great to perform... attracts a lot of attention :D... Gotta practice!

Now... why can't I hover properly!?! [:'(]

SukhoiKid 02-27-2005 10:56 AM

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The reason I got the magic when it came out was to learn to hover with. I mean hover low. This plane to me is a great plane to learn to hover with. We bought two magics when they first came out because I though I would destroy one from trying to hover. After a year and a half of flying it I built the other magic and turn my older magic into a night airplane. It now has lights in the wings. I do the same thing at night as I do during the day. But now I have a found another airplane and that is a burrito. Great flying airplane. I like it because it does outside loops really tight and knifeedges very well.


teryn1 02-27-2005 11:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: csisfun

Now... why can't I hover properly!?! [:'(]
Because it takes practice....there is no magic red button to push to activate hover

SukhoiKid 02-27-2005 11:43 AM

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I wish there was a red magic button to make it hover :D

ORIGINAL: teryn1-RCU


ORIGINAL: csisfun

Now... why can't I hover properly!?! [:'(]
Because it takes practice....there is no magic red button to push to activate hover

SukhoiKid 02-27-2005 05:03 PM

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http://www.flyinggriffins.hostsurrea...evinsmagic.wmv
There is a video of my magic.

GordonFreeman 02-27-2005 09:41 PM

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There is something goofy about the way it flies. But it can do some awesome stuff. I highly recommend it for learning to hover. Here's my little video:

http://home.centurytel.net/GordonFre...agic_short.mpg

csisfun 02-28-2005 07:45 AM

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Practice indeed.

Did you do lateral balance for this plane? Exactly how far from the leading edge is your CG?!

teryn1 03-05-2005 01:03 AM

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those videos are nice...here's another one that I just got done with. It's called LaBamba.

http://www.streamload.com/teryn1/public/labamba.wmv

chadvone 03-22-2005 12:18 AM

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Some Real Cool Videos on here!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a Magic and am interested in what you are using for center of gravity. I have a fox 40 that has good vertical and will hover for a few seconds before falling out. Me not engine. what about right thrust? Is there any built into plane ?

Thanks in advance. I will get it out and fly it this weekend.


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