Snapping circles?
 

Does anyone know how to do snapping circles? I've not been able to figure it out. Are there any tips to doing it right?

RE: Snapping circles?
 

First practice rolling circles. Then practice KE snaps. Then start incorporating these together - practice, practice.

Safe Flying!

RE: Snapping circles?
 

Thanks.:D

RE: Snapping circles?
 

Ask Mike McConnville. I believe it was him that I saw do them at the TOC...didn't look very easy.

RE: Snapping circles?
 

I was overflying it. I just tried on G3 and got it. I now need a plane that is better suited to it(33% Cap580 or Edge 540).:D

RE: Snapping circles?
 

I do them possitive; flyin in KE then Adding Aileron to the same direction and up elevator to make it snap, after the snap release a little rudder and add a burst of power to keep it level

Daniel

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I hate to give away my secret, but the way I do the snapping circle like on the 2002 TOC video or the XFC in 2003 (I think) is actually easy. The do it you need the right airplane. One with 3D rates, and very good horsepower. I have found a lot of smaller models wont do it well, the larger 40%er do.
I enter inverted, on 3D rates. Go to full power, full right aileron, full right rudder, full down. You ther fly the elevator between up and down to keep the nose up and keep it turning through the circle. Its easier than harrier rolls in many ways, because you are only flying the elevator. Rudd, ail and throttle stay buried.
So in reality, the airplane is transitioning between a deep inside snap for 180 degrees rotation and a negative tumble for the other.
Take note of where the nose ends up relative to the horizon, too much elevator or for too long and the nose will rise too high, the speed will drop and the rotation will stop. Some models like nearly equal up and down input, others dont. I first came up with the maneuver with a 40% Carden Edge 540, and it didnt like much if any up elevator input, most of the steering and holding the nose up was done with down elevator.
The Carden Extra 330 and 260 seem more symmetrical on elev input. The H9 Ultimate does it really well, and you can go either same rudder and aileron or opposite rudder and aileron and still steer it around the same with elevator. Some have commented that the Ultimate doesnt look as impressive as the monplanes though, because it stays more axial through the maneuver where the monos get more buried and rotate around all 3 axis more.

RE: Snapping circles?
 

MMcConville, i will try that... i dosent sound that hard! :D

Woops, we want pictures later :)

RE: Snapping circles?
 

THIS IS WHY I LOVE 3D!!:)

More manuevers please!:D

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Get me a H9 Ultimate;)(a H9 33% Patty 260 would also be good:)) and a good camera and I will take a LOT of pics while flying!:):).
Thanks Mike for the tips. I haven't seen either of the videos that you mentioned. I had only heard of the maneuver and seen something that I thought was it.

RE: Snapping circles?
 

By the way, there is a lesson in the FS One simulator for the Snapping Circle. Picture is worth a thousand words, so I'm not sure how many words a real time video with stick movements is worth.

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Thanks Mike..[8D]
Its nice to have a real pro come and provide some input.

I am still not sure exactly what you guys are talking about, is there any video out there? It almost sounds like an entire circle of continuous snaps?

RE: Snapping circles?
 

Pretty much. I believe I did it in my 2002 TOC free, 2005 DLM and TAS free and 2003 and 2004 XFC. Any of those vids should have it.

RE: Snapping circles?
 

The coolest snapping circle I've ever seen anyone do is John Glezellis. I havn't seen anyone do it like him.

-Kelly

RE: Snapping circles?
 

Different maneuver. That was a KE circle with alternating snaps. Not a continuously snapping motion. Cool maneuver, but completely differnt inputs