a real 3D
 

Hello evrybody!

I would like to buy a plane capable of "real" 3d flights; this plane needs to be power by a 1.20 to a 1.80 ( two or four strokes) glow engine. I have seen many planes on the internet and that is why i can't set up my mind. I need you! For instance i have seen the Yak 54 72Quique Somenzini, the Egde T Wild Hare....
I don't want to make a wrong choise and don't want to buy a plane which is only able to do "conventional" aerobatics. ( I love 3D:D )

thanks
Kind regards from France!
SpaceW

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Showtime 4D or U CAN DO 3D 60-90, And maybe the Seagull harrier 90, Funtana 90
All four of these planes would be awsome with a YS 110FZ or a saito 150, maybe a OS 108 FSR 2 stroke, hell even the evolution 100 2 stroke, belive me theres alot more out there then these 4 models, thses are the most common 90+ size off the top of my head :eek:

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Any plane you got can "real 3d" It can taxi on runway , go up in the sky , and you can hammer it in the ground like a tent stake.

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Je resterais loin du Wildhare 540T est pas 3D très bien. Thats tout que je peux dire vraiment. Désolé pour mon Français, son joli mauvais.

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Selon Moi si tu vx vrm faire du 3D et avoir du fun jte conseil pas de tacheter un grosse machine a 3000 $$. Va y avec un 90 genre un funtana 90 et amuse toi ! Il a aussi le nouveau Showtime 90 qui est malade ! Comme dealspeed a dis...un ys 110 et le parfait moteur pour les 90. Si tu vx plus un gros avion de 3D du genre...1.20...Prend celui ke taime le plus...Regarde sourtout le poids final estimé et le wing aera..Ce sont 2 chose tres importante pour le 3D...Choisi toi genre...2 avions puis demande au gens sur internet lequel des deux serai le meilleur..Selon moi le funtana 90 et le showtime son parfait pour le 3D

For my opinion, if you realy want to do 3D and have fun I would not go for a big 3000 $$ machine..Go for a 90 such as a funtana 90 have have fun on the deck..There is the new Showtime 90 that is crazy ! As dealspeed said...the ys 110 is the perfect engine choice for the 90 range planes. If you want a bigger 3D plane such as a 1.20..take the one you like the more...chek the final weight and the wing area..these are 2 things realy imp for 3D.....Choose like...2 planes and ask people on the net about them...For my opinion the SHowtime and the funtana 90 are perfect for 3D


Julien

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for the average 3D pilot, the best glow powered 3-D monster is going to be a modern 3D profile by a wide margin. Planes like the MOJO-60 or OMP-Yak 60 will easily out 3D a UCD, Harrier or Kantana. However, if you half to have a full- fuse glow powered plane; pay close attention to weight & wing loading. The EF-Yak may be a good bet along with the QQ-Yak when available and if you can get them.

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Thank you! for these replies! I am very pleased to see answers in french.this effort is very kind. I will consider all your answers. However i would like to buy a plane with a wingspan about 70.
Thank you
Kind regards from France
Space W

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EF 68 inch yak

or


YT international storm

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Be careful with the H9 funtana 90. They've had lots of wing failures and H9 wont support their products without a sales receipt!!!!

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Stay away from the U-Can-Do 3D 60. I have one. It's currently stripped and rotting in the garage. It was my first 3D plane. It's a piece of sh*t. It hovers great, if thats all you want to do. But it has HORRIBLE coupling in knife-edge, and it flat spins like a falling turtle. It's NOT a very good plane for extreme 3D. It's okay for a beginners 3D plane if you just got out of your trainer, and have minimal flying skills, but not a good plane for an accomplished 3D pilot.

The U-Can-Do 3D 40 is a decent plane--but too small for your specifications.

The Wild Hare planes are too big for your engines. Nice planes, but they are simply too big for a 180 engine.

I'm buying a Showtime 4D and a Saito 180 next week.

Whatever plane you buy, you need to overpower it by AT LEAST 50% if you really want unlimited vertical and extreme performance.

For example:
The Showtime 4D is rated for a 100--110 4-stroke. So, thats why I'm putting a Saito 180 on it.

Any little 46 size 3D plane should have AT LEAST a 60 size engine. MINIMUM 60 for good performance. A .75 would be better on a 5--6 pound airframe.

So, I'd be looking for a 90 size plane if I were you. And don't put a 120 on it. Put a 180 on it for really ballistic power and performance. At least a 150, but the 180 would make you happier.

Don't worry about wing-loading. All the new stuff on the market is built very light when compared to planes built 3 or 5 yrs ago. Most 90 size planes will have 800-1000sq. in. of wing--and they can easily handle a few extra ounces of weight from putting the right engine on the firewall. Just put some servos in the tail and move your battery around for balance.

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BULL CRAP.

DANG NEED WADER'S FOR THAT ONE LOTS OF BULL CRAP.

a 120 is fine as long as the plane isn't over weight.

Liter flies better.

Ya know Wild hare makes a 73 edge 540. The U-can't-do-3d flies great. No plane is perfect allot of its in the setup and person on the sticks. but I don't think its the plane for you , its smaller than 70 and made for 100 to 110 engines.

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Well, thanks for the flame prophanger.

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Not a flame at all. I just don't want to see anyone talked into building a pig. I'm all for more power but theres a point when weight is more important.

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Le Funtana 90 est de vieilles nouvelles. Je n'obtiendrais pas un. U-Pouvoir- sont les machines 3D, Je n'ai jamais vu qu'on font un cercle de roulement. Si j'étais vous j'obtiendrais un Showtime 3D, avec un YS110 il est IMPRESSIONNANT, J'ai vu des videos de lui et m'ai laissé vous dire, si j'avais cet argent j'obtiendrais un. Once again sorry for my francais.

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Mojo 60. No more is needed. Best 3D plane if you like profiles. Go to: http://swanyshouse.com/mojo60/mojo60.html
Saludos.

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Prophanger1 is right. A Funtana40 will do better 3D with a .46 because of the weight penalty it has with a .60

SpaceW, I would go with the Showtime4D. If you have any questions, check out Kyles video.:D

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I'm with Rcpilet here. I'm pretty sure that a Funtana 40 is not going to 3d very well-if at all-with a 46. A 46 with a pipe or tower muffler is right at the bottom of the range for a 4 1/2lb fun fly. Most of us profilers use a Saito 72-82, or a 50 class 2 stroke with an improved exhaust system for a 4-5 lb plane. For a 5-6 lb plane we use a Saito 91-100. For a 6-7 lb plane a YS 110 is about right. Watch the videos posted here of the planes being considered that are really 3D'ing. You will probably find some impressive videos by Kyle using a YS 120 on his 90 size Funtana & Show time.

Profilers that regularly write their names in the dirt with their rudders would laugh at the idea that a Funtana with a 46 can do 3D. The Funtana 40 3D videos posted here at RCU that I have seen have a Saito 91.

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EF yak all the way. they will fly conventional aerobatics, but they are the best 3Ders out thee. i wouldnt recomend the QQ yak, its very overweight.

my EF yak is 3.75kg with a wing area of 6000 sq centimeters.
QQ yaks are usually 5kg with a wing area of 6322 sq centimeters.

basically the EF is very lightweight and performs the best. You can get them in europe through www.freestyle-rc.com

Ian;)

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*** I use the proper tool a f f f f four stroke. If your going to run a 61 on something use a 91 same case size and weight.

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I agree with that.


Woops:D

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I wish the Extreme flight Yaks would arrive in the USA pretty quick I want a backup!:D

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thanks for the replies!