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southern_touch9 11-03-2005 05:29 PM

RE: What Do YOU Consider 3D?
 
To get back to scale model airplanes V.S. "3D planes"

A scale model airplane is just as capable (More so in the right hands) than a UCD ever dreamed. I would match my fliton extra, 35% WH extra, or EF Yak up against any UCD, mayheim, or razzel [:'(] and win. And yes I have flown all of the designs listed!! The UCD is a fun plane to hover and TR with, it will do nearly every move in the book HOWEVER it cant do it as clean and perfect as a scale plane in the right hands. If I want to do some HA Rolling figure eights with a reversal in the middle and stop the rolls every other roll in a HA KE position the UCD is NOT my plane of choice. Where as the EF Yak will float through this manuver with no problems.

I forgot to add...IMO a good profile such as the OMP brand is a perfect blend of the two worlds. You can get precision yet its forgiving if you push too hard.

southern_touch9 11-03-2005 05:33 PM

RE: What Do YOU Consider 3D?
 

To me....any manuever that Patty Wagstaff cannot do in her Extra 300S would be considered 3D.
I dont know about you but I have seen patty wagstaff Torque roll in her extra. And I have a video somewhere of SEan Tucker doing a High Alpha Rolling circle.

STG 11-04-2005 09:29 AM

RE: What Do YOU Consider 3D?
 

ORIGINAL: MustangAce
Plane and simple.......post stall aerobatics.
Does that make IMAC maneuvers like snap roll, hammer head or 2 turn spin 3D moves? They all happen with wing stalled. [&:]


Also, it does not take a lot of power to do harriers (not super HA), elevators, walls, blenders, KE Spins & slow descending flat spins and these are surely 3D moves. So I could theoretically have a plane capable of 3D with out the power to hover [&:]



3D- simply having enough thrust to do sustained maneuvers at up to and including vertically oriented maneuvers. (Dick Hanson)post#35
I think I like Dicks definition.



A GOOD 3D design is measured by it's performance BETWEEN the unstalled, stable flying state and the completely stalled, stationary flying state. (Shogun)
This makes a lot of sense to me.

tpstorey 11-04-2005 03:42 PM

RE: What Do YOU Consider 3D?
 
Among other answers mentioned, I also think of 3D as doing things within a very small "3D box" for the size of the airplane.

...and isn't a flat plate really a FULLY symmetrical airfoil? :D


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