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musltang 12-01-2006 12:06 PM

U can do with .46 la
 
has anyone used this motor combo. does it have enough power. i just got my u can do in the mail and its a lot bigger than i thought it would be. it dwarfs my little .46 la. anyways im not looking for unlimited vertical but i would like to be able to hover it. am i gonna have any problems?

HH 12-01-2006 12:16 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
Don't have this plane but do have some experience with the motor.
I think you will ne dissapointed with this motor in this plane.
It will probably fly it around fine but won't be enough for hovering or serious aerobatic performance.
2cents...

Barry Cazier 12-01-2006 12:30 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
:)I've had a lot of the UCD46 airplanes. One of my favorites. I love mine. I fly it with a Saito 82 which is an excellent engine for it. Many use a Saito 100. Some use a TH 75 two stroke or an OS91 2 stroke.

The 46LA may get it off the ground. It will not hover with that engine or do ANY aerobatics. This is a 6lbs airplane or almost. You gotta get more engine.

Thanks
Barry

raideron 12-01-2006 12:48 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
Ditto on what barry said, The LA 46 will get it in the air for simple flying, ( I had one on my
first plane, Avistar) but trying anything else will be out of the question, or very risky... I have used
the YS 63, S 82 & 100 on my two "Do"s.... They all worked great!!.. I think the YS 63/S 82
is perfect for it... Loads of power with the 100... Throttle control is a must...

Gringo Flyer 12-01-2006 01:31 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
I actually think its illegal in some states to fly a ucan do with the LA series of motors:).


You want at least a 90 or so 4 stroke or a 75 or so 2 stroke. As already seen in this post the Saito 82 is a popular fit. The tower 75 is a good fit for it too and probably cost about a third of the Saito.

stinger40 12-01-2006 01:52 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 


ORIGINAL: Barry Cazier

:)I've had a lot of the UCD46 airplanes. One of my favorites. I love mine. I fly it with a Saito 82 which is an excellent engine for it. Many use a Saito 100. Some use a TH 75 two stroke or an OS91 2 stroke.

The 46LA may get it off the ground. It will not hover with that engine or do ANY aerobatics. This is a 6lbs airplane or almost. You gotta get more engine.

Thanks
Barry
Yep. Mine has a Saito 1.00. LOVE IT!!!!!! I don't even have to give it full throttle on take-off.

buildflycrash 12-01-2006 03:03 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 


ORIGINAL: stinger40
I don't even have to give it full throttle on take-off.
But I hope you do anyway! [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]

musltang 12-01-2006 04:02 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
we are talking about the ucan do 46 right. there are three different sizes. why would you waist 300 bucks on a plane that calls for a .65 sized 4 stroke.

Barry Cazier 12-01-2006 04:12 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
:)Because the engine makes the plane when you are talking about 3d aerobatics. You asked a question, you can see the answer. Trust us, the UCD46 needs a minimum of Saito 82 to run or 75 2 stroke.

Thanks
Barry

adrenalnjunky 12-01-2006 04:16 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
don't believe everything you read, especially when it comes to flying a 3d plane like a 3d plane. GP/Tower is going to tell you want the bottom line is to fly around in circles so they don't scare a general buyer away by saying it really needs a Supass 70 or .61FX for 3D action.

A 4stroke .65 would fly it - might hover, but not with a lot of pull out. Your 46la would fly it, and probably do loops and rolls and stuff, but the LA series 40 and 46 is notoriously weak, and don't swing big props that well - which is something that 3D planes need.

Plus as mentioned, the UCD 46 is arounf 6 lbs RTF, I wouldn't put less than a good strong bearing .61 2 stroker in it, or no less than a Saito .72 - the 82 would be a better fit.

to answer your other question "Why waste a $300 engine on this..." if that $300 engine makes my $120 arf fly like a dream, it's worth every penny. I'd rather spend good money on engines and radio gear than on a high-dollar arf - the planes tend to get thrown away a lot more regularly than the running gear. A good OS FX or Surpass series, Saito, or YS will stick with you much longer than the UCD probably will.

Cambo 12-01-2006 05:08 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
musltang

I recently purchased an SK 90 from http://www.kangkeusa.com/
I was pointed in this direction because i wanted more than the os 70 I had in my funtan x50 (about same weight as UCD, 6 pounds), and at a moderate price. I have not tested it yet but i have heard it is ported for lower rpms, thus being able to swing larger props, perfect for 3d. I think it likes to be proped under 10,000 on te ground wich means 15-16 inch props are in operating range. Plus, you can't beat that price.

rclement 12-01-2006 05:27 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 

ORIGINAL: Barry Cazier

:)Because the engine makes the plane when you are talking about 3d aerobatics. You asked a question, you can see the answer. Trust us, the UCD46 needs a minimum of Saito 82 to run or 75 2 stroke.

Thanks
Barry
That's exactly right. The 82 is bar none the perfect engine for the 46. There are lesser size engines that will "fly" it but you won't get the potential of this plane with any thing smaller or less power.

rclement 12-01-2006 05:30 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 


ORIGINAL: adrenalnjunky

don't believe everything you read, especially when it comes to flying a 3d plane like a 3d plane. GP/Tower is going to tell you want the bottom line is to fly around in circles so they don't scare a general buyer away by saying it really needs a Supass 70 or .61FX for 3D action.

A 4stroke .65 would fly it - might hover, but not with a lot of pull out. Your 46la would fly it, and probably do loops and rolls and stuff, but the LA series 40 and 46 is notoriously weak, and don't swing big props that well - which is something that 3D planes need.

Plus as mentioned, the UCD 46 is arounf 6 lbs RTF, I wouldn't put less than a good strong bearing .61 2 stroker in it, or no less than a Saito .72 - the 82 would be a better fit.

to answer your other question "Why waste a $300 engine on this..." if that $300 engine makes my $120 arf fly like a dream, it's worth every penny. I'd rather spend good money on engines and radio gear than on a high-dollar arf - the planes tend to get thrown away a lot more regularly than the running gear. A good OS FX or Surpass series, Saito, or YS will stick with you much longer than the UCD probably will.
Awesome........... Well said. I've had 3 U Can Do's with the same 82 Saito

musltang 12-02-2006 04:16 AM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
I have a evolution .52 nx I might try tomorrow. because i flew it with the .46 la and it sucked. If that doesnt work. ill put the .52 in my decathlon and put the decathlon's .61 fx in it. if i thought i was going have to buy a large four stroke i would have bought the 60 sized arf. guess i should do my research before i buy

Flyfalcons 12-02-2006 09:40 AM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
The .61FX will hover your UCD, guaranteed. I have a .65LA on a similar size fun fly plane and it has plenty of power. I wish I had the throttle response of a four-stroke but for a budget engine, the .65LA does very well.

adrenalnjunky 12-02-2006 11:12 AM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 

ORIGINAL: musltang

I have a evolution .52 nx I might try tomorrow. because i flew it with the .46 la and it sucked. If that doesnt work. ill put the .52 in my decathlon and put the decathlon's .61 fx in it. if i thought i was going have to buy a large four stroke i would have bought the 60 sized arf. guess i should do my research before i buy
YEah - heres the weird thing - there isn't a lot of size difference between the UCD 46 and the 60 - I mean there is, but if you put them side by side, you'd think the same thing. The UCD 46 seems like a bigger plane to me than other 40 sized 3D planes. Lots of Wing. I have the 60 with a Saito 100, running a 15x4W APC prop and 20% Cool power - it takes off in about 20 feet of roll and will pull vertical until it's a little dot in the sky. It weighs about 7.3lb RTF - thats running a cowl, wheelpants and a spinner. Mix in flaperon/spoileron and it is plenty of fun.

If you put the 61fx in your 46, heres the cool thing - a saito 100 will drop right in with no changes to the motor mount - there's less than 1/16" difference in the prop hub location, and the motor mount bolts pretty much line right up. other than having to change your throttle linkage, and maybe needle valve hole in your cowl, running a 61FX is basically an easy way to step up to a 100 in the future.

Kostas1 12-03-2006 02:19 PM

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Well,
i had an OS 46 LA on my Avistar and it was good.
BUT,

for a UCanDo 46 it's NOT.
I fly mine with an OS 91FX and i couldn't ask better.
Power?
Well,
that makes me laugh.
I take off at 2/3 of throttle and immediately i hover with less throttle.!
Rolls,
knife edges,
stall turns,
spins,
inverted flights,
cuban eight's,
walls etc are PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go with a bigger engine.
Go with a 91!:D

Kostas1 12-03-2006 02:21 PM

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musltang 12-04-2006 03:01 AM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
Well the evolution .52 was a good motor it will hover at just over half throttle with a 12x6 prop and has plenty climb out. I love this plane it fly's awesome. but I have some ****ty luck. after 2 days and around 20 flight s i had a flame out 10 feet of the ground while hovering and punished my plane! thanks for the input guys now im just waiting for a new fuselage. and its just my luck, its freakin backordered! shucks!

AKFireMedic 12-06-2006 03:50 PM

RE: U can do with .46 la
 
You are almost better off to get a whole other plane, then you have more spares for less money. Just a thought.


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